Raise your hand if 'ew.'

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


victor infante - Oct 03, 2005 7:57:47 pm PDT #5843 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Goddamn that Joss Whedon, who does he think he is, Tim Minnear?

I know. I'm expecting Joss to post any minute now saying, "I killed Wash, and I'd do it again."


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 03, 2005 8:22:41 pm PDT #5844 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The only thing that has made me not want to see a film is pervasive, can't escape, haunts my dreams marketing.

If this means that damn ad where Brittany Murphy singsongs "I'll never teh-hellll" I'm right there with you.


WindSparrow - Oct 04, 2005 12:04:45 am PDT #5845 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Goddamn that Joss Whedon, who does he think he is, Tim Minnear?

I know. I'm expecting Joss to post any minute now saying, "I killed Wash, and I'd do it again."

The movie may have broken me (good grief, I was sobbing and shaking in the theater), but I do not feel betrayed. I might have an intense need to thwap Joss repeatedly about the head and shoulders should I ever be within arm's reach (but really, is that ever going to happen? no). But I do not feel like he has betrayed the fans by killing off beloved characters. I love the guys, and wish I could get 'em back.

I don't s'pose there's any chance we'll find that these were mystical deaths? Please?

Still, not betrayed.


le nubian - Oct 04, 2005 12:18:22 am PDT #5846 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

When my friend (in a different state) saw the movie, he heard a kid say to his parent: "Wow, that was a lot better than 'War of the Worlds!'"


Theodosia - Oct 04, 2005 2:23:46 am PDT #5847 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Heh. Kid-approved!


Topic!Cindy - Oct 04, 2005 2:36:57 am PDT #5848 of 10001
What is even happening?

I feel like we lost the high moral ground on Variety ads right around GBAE.

And you could have gotten it back, if you'd just done a Give Buffy a Cheeseburger ad, but did you? No.


victor infante - Oct 04, 2005 4:09:42 am PDT #5849 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I don't s'pose there's any chance we'll find that these were mystical deaths? Please?

Heh. Clones maybe? (:

Still, not betrayed.

Nor I.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 04, 2005 4:27:29 am PDT #5850 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'm insanely proud of that Variety ad for Firefly, though. I regretted it for some time, but got over that issue pretty recently.

As you should be.

I know. I'm expecting Joss to post any minute now saying, "I killed Wash, and I'd do it again."

"But maybe next time I'll lose the blogger."


§ ita § - Oct 04, 2005 4:29:50 am PDT #5851 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How many swayable potential movie viewers read Variety? That's what I don't get about the ad. You want to reach my next door neighbour and convince them to watch it, not poke at industry people.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 04, 2005 4:37:50 am PDT #5852 of 10001
What is even happening?

How many swayable potential movie viewers read Variety? That's what I don't get about the ad. You want to reach my next door neighbour and convince them to watch it, not poke at industry people.
My guess is, they're not even looking at it from that POV. My guess is they're thinking they'll be able to show "industry people" that there's great support for the movie, completely forgetting any support that doesn't filter money through the box office (etc.) and into Universal's pockets is never going to be seen as support by anyone in the industry.