How many swayable potential movie viewers read Variety? That's what I don't get about the ad. You want to reach my next door neighbour and convince them to watch it, not poke at industry people.
Mal: Cut it out. Job's not done until we're back on Serenity. Zoe: Sorry, sir. Didn't mean to enjoy the moment.
'Ariel'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
§ ita § - Oct 04, 2005 4:29:50 am PDT #5851 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Topic!Cindy - Oct 04, 2005 4:37:50 am PDT #5852 of 10001
What is even happening?
How many swayable potential movie viewers read Variety? That's what I don't get about the ad. You want to reach my next door neighbour and convince them to watch it, not poke at industry people.My guess is, they're not even looking at it from that POV. My guess is they're thinking they'll be able to show "industry people" that there's great support for the movie, completely forgetting any support that doesn't filter money through the box office (etc.) and into Universal's pockets is never going to be seen as support by anyone in the industry.
Foxhunter - Oct 04, 2005 4:51:00 am PDT #5853 of 10001
When we kill people it makes the policemen flustered and stern.
A friend just told me "It's weird when fans name themselves."
"Uh, D, I'm a Buffista."
"I know!" she said. "But that's different somehow!"
"Because we don't have a dress code?"
"That could be it."
Why do I hear NF as ita and GT as the friend?
Topic!Cindy - Oct 04, 2005 6:01:16 am PDT #5854 of 10001
What is even happening?
I don't know. Clearly you're delusional. The part of ita is always played by GT.
Foxhunter - Oct 04, 2005 6:46:47 am PDT #5855 of 10001
When we kill people it makes the policemen flustered and stern.
Cindy is right. I just read it again swapping the roles and replacing 'D' with 'Sir', works much better that way.
Tom Scola - Oct 04, 2005 9:04:55 am PDT #5856 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Orson Scott Card calls Serenity the best science fiction movie ever. [link] (The link might be Slashdotted).
DavidS - Oct 04, 2005 9:14:28 am PDT #5857 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
This is an interesting aspect of Joss' writing which has been on my mind:
Well, not only is Serenity about something, it's also extremely well written. Joss Whedon has invented a kind of weird future slang that is still perfectly intelligible but is different, with snatches of foreign languages and obsolete English words that make it clear that it's not ordinary English they're speaking.
The effect of this -- at least in Whedon's deft hands -- is to allow himself something of the kind of heroic language that was possible for Shakespeare -- and for Tolkien. It allows him to be eloquent.
And then he turns around and deliberately clanks with some humorously abrupt language that makes us laugh for the sheer startlement of it. Just as Shakespeare did, when he'd drop from blank verse to the funny coarseness of comic prose.
This is one reason why Joss' writing appeals so much to me. He's very sensitive and attentive to language in a way that few TV or Film writers are (maybe Sorkin and Palladino). He's very conscious about creating a particularly rich metaphoric bed for his work, whether it's based in an entirely made up SoCal teenspeak, or a far future amalgam of 19th century tropes / tech speak /Chinese.
§ ita § - Oct 04, 2005 9:18:36 am PDT #5858 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It's a taste thing, though. My sister likes Buffy well enough, but can't watch it because of the way they speak. I can't see her ever getting to like Firefly, since it's much more alien.
lisah - Oct 04, 2005 9:29:53 am PDT #5859 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate
He's very sensitive and attentive to language in a way that few TV or Film writers are (maybe Sorkin and Palladino).
David Milch (and the other Deadwood writers) has this going on in spades. As do most of the Wire writers. And that's why I can't bring myself to budget out the HBO.
Speaking of Deadwood on-topically--the scientist woman in the signal video thingy was the evil tutor on last season's Deadwood. Creepy!
Atropa - Oct 04, 2005 9:33:17 am PDT #5860 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
And then I realize that to society, I am always going to look bad, or at best weird, and if they weren't mocking me because of my Jossness, they'd be mocking my terrible taste in shoes.
Yes. This. So very, very true.