Psychological studies show that a father's influence on his son tends to manifest as modeling proper (socialized?) ways to express aggression.

See, to me this says Sports. And also Work. And War. Socially acceptable outlets for aggression.

In my (extremely limited - meaning I know two guys, but they both act the same way) experience with men who grew up fatherless/without a constant (meaning "same person always there") male role model, I see a certain insecurity in them around how to be a man - always trying to prove themselves physically, defensive about their masculinity - and a barely-suppressed resentment towards women, especially strong ones. Very sensitive to perceived "bossiness" of tone coming from a woman. (It's almost like they blame their moms for not being dads.)

Contrast this with men who had an unreliable/disapproving father [figure] - they may be unhappy with themselves but they know who they are as men.

I was going to talk about women raised without fathers too but sense that I am veering into unintentional Electra syndrome talk so I'm stopping now.

All IMHO, YMMV etc obviously

ETA Shoulda listened to Hec:

Any gender generalizing always gets hammered.

Well, you may never have, but I'm a horrible brat. *g*

I was too afraid of my grandfather. He could deadlift an anvil with one arm. Freaky strong. And he wasn't afraid to show his wrath.

Zoe and Mal have the same body language. Complete confidence in how they move. Book has it to a degree, but none of the others. There is a calmness about the three of them, each in their own way. To me it is obvious that whoever parented them, mom, farm hands, tutors, they gave the children a sense of worth.

Whatever their backgrounds you know that if something was needed, and they didn't have it, they could invent a substitue without much fuss.

Beverly, wonderful call on Kaylee.

Arby, I don't think my son, Nic, reacts like that.

Zoe and Mal have the same body language.

Both actors are from a dance background, right? Maybe we're reading a bunch of stuff into that fact.

Although... River gave no martial air, and the actor there was certainly from a dance background.

Male social groups tend to like explicit rules and heirarchies and value mastery (of a subject/skill/whatever), while female groups tend to be more relationship-based (and with fewer explicit rules) and open to exceptions, valuing relationships. So, yeah, the military's pretty male.

This is interesting when applied to Mal. Because on the surface he projects the male value set (values the skills of Kaylee, Zoe, Simon, Wash) and his explicit unquestioned authority. But in action he frequently (almost begrudgingly) exhibits the female value set: makes exceptions (doesn't space Jayne, takes on Simon and River despite the inherent danger to his ship), and obviously values relationships (perhaps most explicitly with Kaylee, though clearly also with Zoe).

Another thing about Mal is that while he doesn't brook anybody questioning his orders, he does actually listen to this crew and make adjustments.

Like I said, I only know the two guys, so a totally unscientific sample population. Probably says more about me (that I am friends with them) than it does about men raised by single moms.

Sue, you didn't have to delete your post - I'm sorry, I probably pissed off numerous people. Take it as a character study of arby's friends instead. Please don't hate me.

No, I didn't delete it because I was PO'd. I just have a weird thing about talking about other's experiences on the interbunny. You know, it's not really my experience to share.

Especially since some of my friends might lurk here.