I don't really have a security blanket... unless you count Mr. Pointy.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


SailAweigh - Feb 04, 2005 8:20:27 am PST #573 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Well, you may never have, but I'm a horrible brat. *g*

I was too afraid of my grandfather. He could deadlift an anvil with one arm. Freaky strong. And he wasn't afraid to show his wrath.


sfmarty - Feb 04, 2005 8:24:26 am PST #574 of 10001
Who? moi??

Zoe and Mal have the same body language. Complete confidence in how they move. Book has it to a degree, but none of the others. There is a calmness about the three of them, each in their own way. To me it is obvious that whoever parented them, mom, farm hands, tutors, they gave the children a sense of worth.

Whatever their backgrounds you know that if something was needed, and they didn't have it, they could invent a substitue without much fuss.

Beverly, wonderful call on Kaylee.


sfmarty - Feb 04, 2005 8:26:07 am PST #575 of 10001
Who? moi??

Arby, I don't think my son, Nic, reacts like that.


Gus - Feb 04, 2005 8:29:14 am PST #576 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Zoe and Mal have the same body language.

Both actors are from a dance background, right? Maybe we're reading a bunch of stuff into that fact.

Although... River gave no martial air, and the actor there was certainly from a dance background.


DavidS - Feb 04, 2005 8:32:37 am PST #577 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Male social groups tend to like explicit rules and heirarchies and value mastery (of a subject/skill/whatever), while female groups tend to be more relationship-based (and with fewer explicit rules) and open to exceptions, valuing relationships. So, yeah, the military's pretty male.

This is interesting when applied to Mal. Because on the surface he projects the male value set (values the skills of Kaylee, Zoe, Simon, Wash) and his explicit unquestioned authority. But in action he frequently (almost begrudgingly) exhibits the female value set: makes exceptions (doesn't space Jayne, takes on Simon and River despite the inherent danger to his ship), and obviously values relationships (perhaps most explicitly with Kaylee, though clearly also with Zoe).

Another thing about Mal is that while he doesn't brook anybody questioning his orders, he does actually listen to this crew and make adjustments.


Sue - Feb 04, 2005 8:36:11 am PST #578 of 10001
hip deep in pie

arby - Feb 04, 2005 8:40:48 am PST #579 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

Like I said, I only know the two guys, so a totally unscientific sample population. Probably says more about me (that I am friends with them) than it does about men raised by single moms.


arby - Feb 04, 2005 8:42:26 am PST #580 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

Sue, you didn't have to delete your post - I'm sorry, I probably pissed off numerous people. Take it as a character study of arby's friends instead. Please don't hate me.


Sue - Feb 04, 2005 8:47:28 am PST #581 of 10001
hip deep in pie

No, I didn't delete it because I was PO'd. I just have a weird thing about talking about other's experiences on the interbunny. You know, it's not really my experience to share.

Especially since some of my friends might lurk here.


arby - Feb 04, 2005 8:49:37 am PST #582 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

Whew! wipes brow

Now I'm paranoid about my friends seeing my post. But at least I'm not [as] paranoid that everyone hates me. Unless sfmarty is enraged.

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