Arby, I don't think my son, Nic, reacts like that.
Mighty fine shindig.
Mal ,'Shindig'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
sfmarty - Feb 04, 2005 8:26:07 am PST #575 of 10001
Who? moi??
Gus - Feb 04, 2005 8:29:14 am PST #576 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
Zoe and Mal have the same body language.
Both actors are from a dance background, right? Maybe we're reading a bunch of stuff into that fact.
Although... River gave no martial air, and the actor there was certainly from a dance background.
DavidS - Feb 04, 2005 8:32:37 am PST #577 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Male social groups tend to like explicit rules and heirarchies and value mastery (of a subject/skill/whatever), while female groups tend to be more relationship-based (and with fewer explicit rules) and open to exceptions, valuing relationships. So, yeah, the military's pretty male.
This is interesting when applied to Mal. Because on the surface he projects the male value set (values the skills of Kaylee, Zoe, Simon, Wash) and his explicit unquestioned authority. But in action he frequently (almost begrudgingly) exhibits the female value set: makes exceptions (doesn't space Jayne, takes on Simon and River despite the inherent danger to his ship), and obviously values relationships (perhaps most explicitly with Kaylee, though clearly also with Zoe).
Another thing about Mal is that while he doesn't brook anybody questioning his orders, he does actually listen to this crew and make adjustments.
Sue - Feb 04, 2005 8:36:11 am PST #578 of 10001
hip deep in pie
arby - Feb 04, 2005 8:40:48 am PST #579 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
Like I said, I only know the two guys, so a totally unscientific sample population. Probably says more about me (that I am friends with them) than it does about men raised by single moms.
arby - Feb 04, 2005 8:42:26 am PST #580 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
Sue, you didn't have to delete your post - I'm sorry, I probably pissed off numerous people. Take it as a character study of arby's friends instead. Please don't hate me.
Sue - Feb 04, 2005 8:47:28 am PST #581 of 10001
hip deep in pie
No, I didn't delete it because I was PO'd. I just have a weird thing about talking about other's experiences on the interbunny. You know, it's not really my experience to share.
Especially since some of my friends might lurk here.
arby - Feb 04, 2005 8:49:37 am PST #582 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
Whew! wipes brow
Now I'm paranoid about my friends seeing my post. But at least I'm not [as] paranoid that everyone hates me. Unless sfmarty is enraged.
[/oversensitive]
Gus - Feb 04, 2005 8:50:39 am PST #583 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
Dang, missed Sue's post.
I like DavidS' breakdown. Now I know why I buy that Mal was raised by a strong woman, in the company of roughneck men.
Joss Whedon and Nathan Fillion had nothing to do with this. It is all DavidS.
OK, that's a lie.
arby - Feb 04, 2005 8:55:20 am PST #584 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
It was another counterexample using someone she knows.