Well, lady, I must say-- You're my kinda stupid.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


AllAroundPsycho - Oct 01, 2005 10:01:57 am PDT #5476 of 10001
If wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak.

While skimming, I saw that a few folks mentioned that Wash's death was pointless. In the context of BDM1, it is a little pointless. Where we will really see the point of it is in BDM2 and BDM3 (if we are so lucky). This is when we will see a different Zoe. Wash's death was necessary for Zoe to change; and that's something that Joss does. He changes his characters over time. Joss is likely going to tell us the major stories that he wanted to tell with the series through the movies. People were going to die - people were going to change. You don't give Joss 9 characters and expect them all to come out at the end smiling, happy, and ready to go get some ice cream together.


Liese S. - Oct 01, 2005 10:03:06 am PDT #5477 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

AAAAaaaaarrrrghhhh! Arhghgh! Argh.

I can't believe they killed Wash.

I loved the movie. Let's start by saying that. I loved it and although I wouldn't say "enjoyed" precisely, I was entertained.

Then all the way home I nitpicked and complained and whined. But that's just the fandom in me. I wouldn't be a fan if I couldn't complain.

But I can't believe they killed Wash. And Book, too, I suppose, but I kinda saw that coming for narrative and real world reasons.

And also? Tim woulda killed 'em better.


Eddie - Oct 01, 2005 10:04:55 am PDT #5478 of 10001
Your tag here.

One thing I couldn't figure out was that Mal broke The Operative's back during the fight, correct? Am I to assume that medical science is so advanced they were able to fix him so he could have the speech with Mal at the end? Joss didn't really provide any explanation such as a robotic exoskeleton or somesuch as to why he's able to walk again.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 01, 2005 10:08:50 am PDT #5479 of 10001
What is even happening?

In the context of BDM1, it is a little pointless. Where we will really see the point of it is in BDM2 and BDM3 (if we are so lucky).
Wash was such an accessible character for me (in the series) that I don't even care about BDMs 2 and 3, with him dead. I know there's meta-spec that AT mightn't have been available for future BDMs, but still...


AllAroundPsycho - Oct 01, 2005 10:12:02 am PDT #5480 of 10001
If wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak.

Wash was such an accessible character for me (in the series) that I don't even care about BDMs 2 and 3, with him dead.
We are mourning Wash just like the characters are mourning Wash. Part of the reason of seeing BDM2 and BDM3 is seeing how the characters move on and deal with his loss. Just like we are. Don't you want to see this?


Daisy Jane - Oct 01, 2005 10:15:34 am PDT #5481 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

We went last night with about, 10 maybe, people after Mr. H got off work. 2 others were hard core series fan, 1 who likes the series a lot and 7 who'd never seen nor heard of it. A good time was had by all.

My friend sitting next to me was a little distracted during the battle scene because I put my hands over my eyes and plugged my ears near the end. She knows I'm not squeamish about stuff, so she knew something bad was coming.


Zenkitty - Oct 01, 2005 10:17:08 am PDT #5482 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Eddie, shooting script says Mal broke both the Big O's arms. They could fix that pretty quick, I expect.

It also explains why he couldn't get loose by just taking his belt off.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 01, 2005 10:20:55 am PDT #5483 of 10001
What is even happening?

We are mourning Wash just like the characters are mourning Wash. Part of the reason of seeing BDM2 and BDM3 is seeing how the characters move on and deal with his loss. Just like we are. Don't you want to see this?
I'm not mourning Wash. I haven't even seen the film. I just find the concept of more FF without him kind of...boring.


amych - Oct 01, 2005 10:22:01 am PDT #5484 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Hush, now, Cindy. Psycho is telling you what you really think; the least you can do is accept it without protest.


Liese S. - Oct 01, 2005 10:24:23 am PDT #5485 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Oh, and there was a pretty good fannish crowd at our little theater -- a little surprising. No costumes, because none of us can ever ever admit that we are geeks in this town. But still, a good crowd, and they seemed to react appropriately throughout.