One thing I couldn't figure out was that Mal broke The Operative's back during the fight, correct? Am I to assume that medical science is so advanced they were able to fix him so he could have the speech with Mal at the end? Joss didn't really provide any explanation such as a robotic exoskeleton or somesuch as to why he's able to walk again.
Spike: You pissed in the Big Man's Chair? That's fantastic! Gunn: Spike, can you please turn off that warm fuzzy? Spike: What, the Lorne thing? Worn off. I just think that's bloody fabulous.
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Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Eddie - Oct 01, 2005 10:04:55 am PDT #5478 of 10001
Your tag here.
Topic!Cindy - Oct 01, 2005 10:08:50 am PDT #5479 of 10001
What is even happening?
In the context of BDM1, it is a little pointless. Where we will really see the point of it is in BDM2 and BDM3 (if we are so lucky).Wash was such an accessible character for me (in the series) that I don't even care about BDMs 2 and 3, with him dead. I know there's meta-spec that AT mightn't have been available for future BDMs, but still...
AllAroundPsycho - Oct 01, 2005 10:12:02 am PDT #5480 of 10001
If wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak.
Wash was such an accessible character for me (in the series) that I don't even care about BDMs 2 and 3, with him dead.We are mourning Wash just like the characters are mourning Wash. Part of the reason of seeing BDM2 and BDM3 is seeing how the characters move on and deal with his loss. Just like we are. Don't you want to see this?
Daisy Jane - Oct 01, 2005 10:15:34 am PDT #5481 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
We went last night with about, 10 maybe, people after Mr. H got off work. 2 others were hard core series fan, 1 who likes the series a lot and 7 who'd never seen nor heard of it. A good time was had by all.
My friend sitting next to me was a little distracted during the battle scene because I put my hands over my eyes and plugged my ears near the end. She knows I'm not squeamish about stuff, so she knew something bad was coming.
Zenkitty - Oct 01, 2005 10:17:08 am PDT #5482 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Eddie, shooting script says Mal broke both the Big O's arms. They could fix that pretty quick, I expect.
It also explains why he couldn't get loose by just taking his belt off.
Topic!Cindy - Oct 01, 2005 10:20:55 am PDT #5483 of 10001
What is even happening?
We are mourning Wash just like the characters are mourning Wash. Part of the reason of seeing BDM2 and BDM3 is seeing how the characters move on and deal with his loss. Just like we are. Don't you want to see this?I'm not mourning Wash. I haven't even seen the film. I just find the concept of more FF without him kind of...boring.
amych - Oct 01, 2005 10:22:01 am PDT #5484 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Hush, now, Cindy. Psycho is telling you what you really think; the least you can do is accept it without protest.
Liese S. - Oct 01, 2005 10:24:23 am PDT #5485 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Oh, and there was a pretty good fannish crowd at our little theater -- a little surprising. No costumes, because none of us can ever ever admit that we are geeks in this town. But still, a good crowd, and they seemed to react appropriately throughout.
Gris - Oct 01, 2005 10:30:12 am PDT #5486 of 10001
Hey. New board.
To me, Wash's death feels like Tara's death, emotional bitchslap and all. Only Tara wasn't even about to fight for her life in a battle with terrifying psychotics, she was just getting ready for lunch with her girlfriend or whatever.
Did this conversation come up then? I wasn't around, yet. I know some people felt just as betrayed by that, though that may have been because they had decided Willow/Tara was TV's one good symbol of homosexual love or whatever, rather than feeling that Joss killed her just to be cruel.
Personally, Tara hurt me more. Wash hurt me a lot, but he was not a character I ever loved as much as many do, while Tara was my favorite. But I felt both deaths were well-executed, and, if not necessary plot points per se, at least consistent, interesting, and powerful additions to the universe.
Eddie - Oct 01, 2005 10:31:04 am PDT #5487 of 10001
Your tag here.
Eddie, shooting script says Mal broke both the Big O's arms.
Thanks, Zenkitty. I thought his back was broken because of the way Mal had ahold of him when things went crunch, plus the way The Operative just sat there gasping. It read "back broken" to me.
Edit: On reflection, if The Operative's back were broken,there would be no need to pin him with his own sword.