Ooh, the authorial intent debate. My feeling tends to be that a text has to stand on its own merits - meaning that we can all interpret "Daddy" as whomever we like. Hey, if you can find support she meant Jayne, I'll buy it.
Mal: That's not what I saw. You like to tell me what really happened? Book: I surely would. And maybe someday I will.
'Safe'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Kiba Rika - Aug 27, 2005 11:57:23 am PDT #4530 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.
Zenkitty - Aug 27, 2005 12:04:33 pm PDT #4531 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
backs away from the authorial intent debate That way lies madness. Especially in a body of work like a tv show with multiple authors, some of whom may have had ideas that contradicted other writers' ideas.
"Just because you wrote it, how do you know that's what it meant?" One of my favorite quotes of all time, and I don't even know who said it.
Polter-Cow - Aug 27, 2005 12:07:53 pm PDT #4532 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
"Just because you wrote it, how do you know that's what it meant?" One of my favorite quotes of all time, and I don't even know who said it.
Or what they meant.
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 27, 2005 3:22:14 pm PDT #4533 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
The hodgeberry scene never struck me as incestuous either, but that's probably due to Maher never convincing me for a single instant that he or any of the characters he's ever portrayed were heterosexual.
Zenkitty - Aug 27, 2005 4:12:14 pm PDT #4534 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
I've never seen Sean Maher in anything else, but Simon seems very... either asexual or sexually repressed, not sure which. He doesn't so much ping my gaydar, but my gaydar is famously broken. He's beautiful, but not so much sexy. (To me.)
§ ita § - Aug 27, 2005 4:12:50 pm PDT #4535 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
He seems straight but kinda dumb and terrified with Kaylee, not gay, to me.
Jars - Aug 27, 2005 4:15:19 pm PDT #4536 of 10001
Oh, I'm definitely getting a hint of queerness off Simon. Whether it's Simon or Sean Maher though, I don't know. I've never seen him in anything other than Firefly.
Kiba Rika - Aug 27, 2005 4:20:27 pm PDT #4537 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.
I think I've gotta roll with the repressed angle on that one.
sumi - Aug 27, 2005 6:56:51 pm PDT #4538 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
Going back to what Zenkitty said: having the episode end with that nice familial dinner scene just underscores the whole family thing.
Did anyone watch Sean Maher in The Dive from Clausen's Pier?
Eddie - Aug 27, 2005 7:08:39 pm PDT #4539 of 10001
Your tag here.
having the episode end with that nice familial dinner scene just underscores the whole family thing.
Yeah, that's one of my favorite scenes from the series.