When you look back at this, in the three seconds it'll take you to turn to dust, I think you'll find the mistake was touching my stuff.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Gris - Aug 18, 2005 1:34:30 pm PDT #4337 of 10001
Hey. New board.

A decent film editor could easily have done all of it up to the last 2 seconds, filming the psychologist guy him or herself. It wouldn't be difficult to superimpose the Summer stuff on top of that, especially since the static and whatnot are there to help cover any foibles.

But, it still requires a clip of Summer coming right up to the camera and saying "I can see you." Though I'm willing to believe the voice could be faked, if we can find a clip that works close enough to that line for believable dubbing.


Kevin - Aug 18, 2005 1:40:24 pm PDT #4338 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Nah, I doubt it's faked (although there are some weird photography things going on). I'll have a look through the original shooting script tomorrow(*) to see if that scene was there - maybe they were doing some 'test' shooting originally?

(*) The publishers of the Serenity script book have sent me a review copy, and it's SHINY. Production photos, in depth interviews (Zoe was originally a man) etc.


Kiba Rika - Aug 18, 2005 1:41:40 pm PDT #4339 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

Zoe was originally a man

Wh-huh?


Gris - Aug 18, 2005 1:43:55 pm PDT #4340 of 10001
Hey. New board.

See, I'd say I think it's definitely faked. The guy playing the psychologist has some really weird issues going on with his physical acting (for example, it's clear he's standing up as he falls, his body moves upward, not very believable) that wouldn't be in a professional film.

Though if that film is in the script, I'll eat my words. I think it's faked, though. I think somebody will find the Summer bit somewhere, or something very close to it.


§ ita § - Aug 18, 2005 1:45:38 pm PDT #4341 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wh-huh?

I bet you're quoting Wash here.


Kiba Rika - Aug 18, 2005 1:46:50 pm PDT #4342 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

I bet you're quoting Wash here.

If I am, it's entirely unintentional.


Polter-Cow - Aug 18, 2005 1:52:46 pm PDT #4343 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

(for example, it's clear he's standing up as he falls, his body moves upward, not very believable)

Why couldn't he be trying to stand up, maybe break free of whatever psychic hold River may have on him, before he finally collapses? I don't think that's a sign of unprofessional acting.

In any case, it's spreading. Last night, it had about 2,800 views and was number 8 in the Just Weird section. Now it's got about 5,000 more views and is number 4, poised to overtake "Breastfeeding the Cat."


Kevin - Aug 18, 2005 1:55:51 pm PDT #4344 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I thought it was a Buffy quote, ita.

Zoe was indeed originally a man, according to Uncle Joss(tm). I'll have to take a scan of that bit. It's a really, really great book (sorry, "Visual Companion") for a change.


Kevin - Aug 18, 2005 1:59:10 pm PDT #4345 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

By the way, Allyson, I presume you are already on the LA screening list?


Kristen - Aug 18, 2005 2:12:00 pm PDT #4346 of 10001

Kevin funny.

Also, I really dislike ifilm. It never works properly for me.