If those aren't sci-fi, I will eat my hat.
I waver, but there's a strong argument that they are romances in space. At least the later ones; the first one's definitely sci-fi.
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Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Volans - May 30, 2005 10:00:05 pm PDT #2665 of 10001
move out and draw fire
Mr. Broom - May 30, 2005 10:06:54 pm PDT #2666 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor
Fair enough. I've only read through The Vor Game so I'll take your word on that.
Am-Chau Yarkona - May 30, 2005 10:18:31 pm PDT #2667 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty
It depends how you define 'fan': regular viewers of a family sci-fi show like Doctor Who are probably about balanced in gender terms. With a wide spread of ages.
tommyrot - May 31, 2005 2:38:41 am PDT #2668 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I know the women around me when I was growing up thought both SF and fanship were big old wastes of time, not important stuff like getting married, having babies, cooking, and shoes.
shoes are still important, right?
Matt the Bruins fan - May 31, 2005 3:24:12 am PDT #2669 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Yeah, but there must be some other SF fandom that has an equal or greater percentage of women to men.
If Xena is counted under the SF/Fantasy umbrella, the passionate fandom skews way female.
Tom Scola - May 31, 2005 3:26:05 am PDT #2670 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Stargate skews female too, doesn't it?
Volans - May 31, 2005 4:01:54 am PDT #2671 of 10001
move out and draw fire
Well, if we include Fantasy as well as SF, then yeah, you get a lot more female fans.
And shoes are The Most Important Thing.
Dana - May 31, 2005 5:11:46 am PDT #2672 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
I think there's a big difference between the most visible portion of a fandom and the overall fandom. Online Stargate fandom skews female, for sure. But in terms of Nielsens and DVD sales? I'd be a lot less sure.
Dana - May 31, 2005 6:30:58 am PDT #2673 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Hey, those of you who bought preview tickets online, was there a limit on the number of tickets you could buy?
tommyrot - May 31, 2005 6:32:19 am PDT #2674 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
The limit was two. Some places, anyway.