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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Gus - Apr 27, 2005 11:05:04 am PDT #1665 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Ah. That is why mine works. Everyone come over and link to my cache. It will be a party. A really strange, single PC party.


Kalshane - Apr 27, 2005 11:09:52 am PDT #1666 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Judging by one of the clips, one of two things seems to have happened:

1) River gets caught again and Simon has to rescue her again.

2) It's a flashback and Joss is retconning Simon into having rescued River directly instead of paying to have her smuggled out.


tommyrot - Apr 27, 2005 11:11:16 am PDT #1667 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

It's a flashback and Joss is retconning Simon into having rescued River directly instead of paying to have her smuggled out.

I think River was already in cryo before Simon picked her up. IIRC.


Kalshane - Apr 27, 2005 11:15:06 am PDT #1668 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I think River was already in cryo before Simon picked her up. IIRC.

That's what I meant. But the scene from the trailer with River in the chair of doom and Simon with the flashy thing suggests either another rescue or a retconn of the original.


Gus - Apr 27, 2005 11:15:50 am PDT #1669 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Kalshane is a trufan. Still, I'm not getting either of these.


tommyrot - Apr 27, 2005 11:18:30 am PDT #1670 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh. See, I don't see a flashback contradicting something in an episode to be a retconn, just bad continuity. Unless, say, it turns out that Simon lied in the pilot episode. Maybe my definition of 'retconn' is too restrictive?


Gus - Apr 27, 2005 11:21:25 am PDT #1671 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

What are you guys talking about?

What flashback? Simon with the bouncing-betty device?


tommyrot - Apr 27, 2005 11:23:04 am PDT #1672 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

What are you guys talking about?

A possible flashback in the trailer would (if it was a flashback) contradict the scene in the pilot (the original, two hour one) where Simon says he paid folks to put River in cryo and ship her to him.


Gus - Apr 27, 2005 11:27:59 am PDT #1673 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

I watched that thing nine times and still have no idea where you are coming from. Gimme a line. All I saw Simon do was look profile-y in one shot, and launch an exploding thing in another.


Kiba Rika - Apr 27, 2005 11:28:00 am PDT #1674 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

I really do think it has the potential to be the next Star Wars, seriously.

I myself prefer to imagine it as Star Trek. Cancelled show, groundswell of fans, so many movies it starts getting sketchy (WHALES?), etc.

bad continuity.

In a Whedon production? Never!

...how old is Angel?