Loyalty/respect for a writer is different than loyalty to a show. It's like following a specific performer's career because you lke their work. As a writer, I think it's makes more sense to have oyalty to a writer, as writers have specific voices and chances are, if you like their voice in one thing, you will like it in another.
There's also loyalty/respect for fandom in return, which some writers/performers have and some don't. IMO, once the piece is written, the creator has done their job--they owe the fandom nothing, not even a second glance. It's very cool and satisfying when there IS that respect, but it isn't part of the job. I have the freedom not to care about a writer's work and they have the freedom not to care about me, even if I volunteer my time to help their career. I tend to respect performers more when they do pay attention to their fans, but it isn't a given. All the respect in the world won't make me like and support work if I don't. George Lucas could buy me a house and I would still think the SW prequels suck.
It hadn't occured to me before, but now that it's mentioned, it's a curiosity that Tim isn't mentioned anywhere in conjunction with Serenity. Clearly, there is a galaxy's worth of information I'm not privy to but...now that you mention it. Huh.
IMO, once the piece is written, the creator has done their job--they owe the fandom nothing, not even a second glance.
I agree. I have some meta issues outside the scope of show-saving that are personal. I found a good loving home for his cat. I was asked to help pimp the Kerry thing, which I did, and then suffered abuse and humilation from another fan who verbally kicked the shit out of me (long story short, his info came from the asinine Kerry campaign, mine from office o' joss). I said, "hey, some person is calling me a liar and an idiot and seems to be making me look like a liar and idiot," and no one came to my aid.
So that has added to my feelings of resentment. I'm not owed anything by anyone connected to Firefly for my efforts. No one asked for help, really, except Kai. And she just asked for signatures on a petition. It's just that it seems polite to say thank you to someone who picks you up when you fall. You may not have asked for the hand, and yet, there it is.
So he can't have my ten bucks. The fandom who lent me their trust? They can have the world on a platter.
I totally get it, Allyson.
So, this may be a stupid question, but who is Kai?
suffered abuse and humilation from another fan who verbally kicked the shit out of me
Mainly because that person is an insufferable SOB. Just my two cents.
ETA: I did defend you quietly, Allyson and have been ridiculed and humiliated as well. He is a prick.
skipping thru to say my family - some of whom did not see firefly are already kicking tags back and forth in email.
Well, now you can do no wrong in my eyes, maybe that makes me fickle.
See, there is no difference of opinion that cannot be solved by Bruce. (Who I am watching on TV right now AIFG!)
IMO, once the piece is written, the creator has done their job--they owe the fandom nothing, not even a second glance.
Yes and no. I don't think that a creator owes the fans anything. But when they go to the fans and ask for their help and the fans answer, the line blurs for me. (I'm not specifically talking about Joss here. This scenario is becoming more and more common.) I feel that they deserve a thank you. But maybe my mom drilled the "send a thank you note" schtick into my head a little too hard.
ETA: Tamara, we should start a club or something. I think we'd have a lot of members.
