It hadn't occured to me before, but now that it's mentioned, it's a curiosity that Tim isn't mentioned anywhere in conjunction with Serenity. Clearly, there is a galaxy's worth of information I'm not privy to but...now that you mention it. Huh.
Wild monkey love or tender Sarah McLachlan love?
Xander ,'Him'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
beekaytee - Apr 26, 2005 4:00:19 pm PDT #1563 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant
Allyson - Apr 26, 2005 4:11:44 pm PDT #1564 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
IMO, once the piece is written, the creator has done their job--they owe the fandom nothing, not even a second glance.
I agree. I have some meta issues outside the scope of show-saving that are personal. I found a good loving home for his cat. I was asked to help pimp the Kerry thing, which I did, and then suffered abuse and humilation from another fan who verbally kicked the shit out of me (long story short, his info came from the asinine Kerry campaign, mine from office o' joss). I said, "hey, some person is calling me a liar and an idiot and seems to be making me look like a liar and idiot," and no one came to my aid.
So that has added to my feelings of resentment. I'm not owed anything by anyone connected to Firefly for my efforts. No one asked for help, really, except Kai. And she just asked for signatures on a petition. It's just that it seems polite to say thank you to someone who picks you up when you fall. You may not have asked for the hand, and yet, there it is.
So he can't have my ten bucks. The fandom who lent me their trust? They can have the world on a platter.
Scrappy - Apr 26, 2005 4:13:30 pm PDT #1565 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
I totally get it, Allyson.
libkitty - Apr 26, 2005 4:15:54 pm PDT #1566 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
So, this may be a stupid question, but who is Kai?
Scrappy - Apr 26, 2005 4:19:37 pm PDT #1567 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Joss's wife.
libkitty - Apr 26, 2005 4:29:45 pm PDT #1568 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
Thanks.
Tamara - Apr 26, 2005 4:39:26 pm PDT #1569 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
suffered abuse and humilation from another fan who verbally kicked the shit out of me
Mainly because that person is an insufferable SOB. Just my two cents.
ETA: I did defend you quietly, Allyson and have been ridiculed and humiliated as well. He is a prick.
beth b - Apr 26, 2005 5:12:03 pm PDT #1570 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
skipping thru to say my family - some of whom did not see firefly are already kicking tags back and forth in email.
Kristen - Apr 26, 2005 5:15:34 pm PDT #1571 of 10001
Well, now you can do no wrong in my eyes, maybe that makes me fickle.
See, there is no difference of opinion that cannot be solved by Bruce. (Who I am watching on TV right now AIFG!)
IMO, once the piece is written, the creator has done their job--they owe the fandom nothing, not even a second glance.
Yes and no. I don't think that a creator owes the fans anything. But when they go to the fans and ask for their help and the fans answer, the line blurs for me. (I'm not specifically talking about Joss here. This scenario is becoming more and more common.) I feel that they deserve a thank you. But maybe my mom drilled the "send a thank you note" schtick into my head a little too hard.
ETA: Tamara, we should start a club or something. I think we'd have a lot of members.
Kathy A - Apr 26, 2005 5:26:22 pm PDT #1572 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
I just finished watching the trailer (stupid work, with the "no video playing allowed" policy). Rock on! It looks great, and I'm hoping that my sister (who has firmly resisted the entire Mutant Enemy body of work, no matter what I say) will be dragged to see it by her new boyfriend, a Buffy/Angel fan from what she tells me.