I *really* hate QuickTime now that Apple forces me to download iTunes to play it.

That's very strange, Betsy. It only does that for the fullscreen, though, right? I can view the Large size fine without iTunes.

Whoa whoa whoa!

Allyson: You're not hard to find. If I have something to say to you I wouldn't do it here. I was reacting more to the Talkbacks I'm involved with over at AICN and since motivation to see the film is a subject here as well so I put my $.02 in.

Kristen: Based solely on the fact that someone says they love Show A then turns around and says Show A doesn't do it for me, I'm all about Show B now, that does seem a little fickle to me. Makes me think how much they loved Show A in the first place. Now if you add in all this other stuff which I thought was secondary and now turns out that it wasn't the show itself that was actually loved, that's a different story. In fairness, posting a whole big deal and then deleting it doesn't help your anti-fickle cause. Honestly I meant no insult by it, I apologize that you took offense. They also say girls are sugar and spice and everything nice. It's not like I was the one who makes these things up.

They also say girls are sugar and spice and everything nice.

Not if they want to keep their testicles.

Based solely on the fact that someone says they love Show A then turns around and says Show A doesn't do it for me, I'm all about Show B now, that does seem a little fickle to me

How many people do you know eat the same thing for lunch every day? How many people do you know have only dated one person?

Not if they want to keep their testicles.

Some girls like that sort of thing. Not wrong or right, just is.

How many people do you know eat the same thing for lunch every day? How many people do you know have only dated one person?

I've loved pasta my whole life. I have it four times a week. My favorite ice cream is chocolate chip. It's never changed. It's not my use of the word fickle but my use of the generalization that all women are fickle that was taken exception to.

Not if they want to keep their testicles.

You're so fickle.

I was reacting more to the Talkbacks I'm involved with over at AICN

This is your main problem. Why would anyone over 14 years old who has seen a woman naked go to AICN Talkbacks for anything? Back away from the AICN Talkbacks. No good can come of it.

Makes me think how much they loved Show A in the first place.

She has the Variety ad and six weeks of working around the clock and on weekends to organize the fandom to prove it.

Honestly? For me, it was more about loving Tim to pieces, and seeing him hurt. If I dared speak for Kristen, I'd say that was a big part of it for her, too.

I wrote about the campaign, and Tim's hurt was the catalyst for us, as Kai's petition was for Kiba.

It wasn't all about Firefly, it was about friends, love of fandom in general, and the pleasure of a successful project.

I believe in my heart of hearts that what we did organized the fandom and taught them how much can be accomplished through the grassroots and sticking together.

I believe we could have raised that sort of army for Wonderfalls.

And I'm all about doing it for The Inside, which I believe is a great show written by a good man who will get every ounce of love I can put into promoting the fuck out of it. It's deserved, the way the Firefly campaign was deserved.

End hubris.

Based solely on the fact that someone says they love Show A then turns around and says Show A doesn't do it for me, I'm all about Show B now, that does seem a little fickle to me

What's wrong with that? Tastes change over time. I'm not half as interested in figure skating now as I was two years ago, but I've always figured that's OK, since skating and I never made any "till death do us part" promises to each other.

Based solely on the fact that someone says they love Show A then turns around and says Show A doesn't do it for me, I'm all about Show B now, that does seem a little fickle to me.

But that's not what I said and it's what you keep refusing to acknowledge.

When it first premiered, I hated FF. A lot. You can look it up. (In fact, I didn't think too highly of it back when I read the original pilot script the spring before it premiered.) But I stuck with it because it was Tim's baby and he really loved it and, frankly, I felt guilty that I didn't love it too. In time, I came to love FF. But that was due to OoG (Tim's episode) and Ariel (Jose Molina's episode) and probably because I needed to love it since I had already agreed to try and save it.

And now there's a movie and it's all Joss. No Tim. No Jose. It's Joss's baby and he did it all. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm saying it's not my thing. I am not all about Joss any longer. I haven't been in a very long time. Maybe that is fickle. I dunno. I do know that I love Bruce Springsteen and, if I ran into him one day and he punched me in the face, I'd probably not want to listen Bruce so much anymore.

I'm not sure if the above is clear enough so let me hammer it home one more time. I only watched FF because it was Tim's show. I only worked to save it because it was Tim's show. I'm glad that the fans have a movie but I don't particularly want to see it because it's not Tim's show.

As for why I deleted my post the other night, people that I don't know on the internet already know too much about my life and the walls in this place have big ears. Cowardly, yes. But much more peaceful.

I believe we could have raised that sort of army for Wonderfalls.

I wish we had. Note to self: add Wonderfalls to birthday list.

as Kai's petition was for Kiba.

Damn straight. Probably would've just sat on my ass and grumbled when the show was cancelled, if that hadn't popped into my inbox. Instead, I sat on my ass and coded. Much more productive. (Also I spent hours upon hours watching commercials of recorded episodes, finding sponsors' addresses, etc. But still that was mostly sitting.)

ETA: Re: fickle. Again, I haven't been around to see all the original stuff, but I think there's a big difference between today I love something tomorrow I hate it and today I love something, two to nine years from now I don't love it anymore. Most people slowly come and go from their favorite things/obsessions. We'd all be stagnant if we didn't. It's not the same thing as expressing devotion one day and hatred the next.