Mal: Which one you figure tracked us? Zoe: The ugly one, sir. Mal: Could you be more specific?

'Out Of Gas'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


UTTAD - Apr 23, 2005 10:10:56 am PDT #1298 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.

I remember getting pissed off at the Beta when people were dissing late Buffy, because it seemed like a lot of posters were saying:

"How can you like this? You are wrong to like this. Here, I will explain why this programme is pony and you will then stop liking it also."

Which struck me as cruel, trying to make someone dislike something the previously liked. Of course other posters (me included!) do, in fact, have brains of their own.

So, whereas Allyson might well be dissing the film, or more correctly the idea of Firefly as a film, it should really have no impact on those that want to see it. You either think that the concept will fly as a movie or not.

I've no idea. I just hope it does. And will be ther on the opening day with bells on.


Gris - Apr 23, 2005 10:19:17 am PDT #1299 of 10001
Hey. New board.

You should have seen the abuse "Spiral" got over in the Buffy thread.

I still like Spiral

t /useless


Polter-Cow - Apr 23, 2005 10:40:49 am PDT #1300 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Me too.


reequeen - Apr 23, 2005 10:45:09 am PDT #1301 of 10001
"It's got to be the hair, Cotton. It's beautiful! Feathered and lethal. You just don't see it nowadays." Pepper Brooks - Dodgeball

The most recent posts aside, the previous tempest in a teacup is precisely why I don't participate much in this forum. Whew! I'm sure you'll excuse me from reading alla that, because I simply lost interest after the third or fourth interpretation.

Apparently, if one posts something that can in any way be construed as even half-glancingly read as negatively hinting at the possibility that someone may or may not have said something not quite satisfactory, then one ends up with a barely sub-nuclear level defense initiative.

Or was that simply special treatment for li'l ole moi? I mean, I know I'm cute'n all, but....

It doesn't seem to matter how much I backfilled, apologized, explained, offered possible alternative readings, stated that this is what I observed, and how this could possibly be a reason for why someone else said something. I tried to adequately cover my ass, I really did - I may have mentioned once or twice how I really didn't want to appear to be ragging on anybody (I paraphrase, naturally) . Now, well, I'm kind of glad some people got their panties all wadded.

For crying out loud! Of the things I said, the word, "worship" seemed to have caused the most offense? Pleeeze. Nothin' wrong with a little hypberbole. And if one cannot see that for what it is, and understand that I am, indeed, an intelligent human being with mad vocabulary skillz, then, well, c'est, as they say, la vie.

I mean, seriously, I could've gone into a long, paragraphical interpretation of this thread and what it means to me, but it seemed, somehow, easier to shorten that to "worship." I see now the error of my mistake.

While I'm on the subject, does anyone comprehend how disengenuous the denial of any type of fan-like enthusiasm is in this particular forum? Anyone? 'Cause participating in a forum that gets its name from, well, Buffy, kind of indicates at least a mild interest, wouldn't that be correct? Wouldn't it be a little silly, not to mention masochistic, to participate in a forum that advertises in the name the presumed interests of the participants, if one were entirely and militantly against these productions?

I ask merely for information.

It doesn't matter if it's high-minded philosophy y'all are discussing, or merely partying hard and getting down. It is the general assumption that folks're here because of a shared interest in one or another Mutant Enemy production.

Yes? No?

While it may seem to others that I'm completely ignorant, unable to walk my way through the thread list and comprehend what each thread entails and the putative subject matter, I feel I must assure people that, in fact, I do understand that there are specific threads for discussing specific things, side-chat and thread drift notwithstanding. Which would be why I offered an explanation as to how it could seem to some that posting even offhandedly anti comments about Serenity in this thread might seem remotely unseemly, and why some might be curious as to the reasons that might occur.

All that being said, I hope everyone else enjoyed this hoo-ha as much as I did. It's been a laff riot! ;-D


Narrator - Apr 23, 2005 10:47:57 am PDT #1302 of 10001
The evil is this way?

Me three.


Gus - Apr 23, 2005 11:01:40 am PDT #1303 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Checked in. Saw a gazillion post in Firefly and thought "Somebody got an early peek at the trailer!"

Silly me.

I certainly hope Buffistas doesn't devolve into a "Serenty R0x0r2!!1oneone" board.


Scrappy - Apr 23, 2005 11:06:09 am PDT #1304 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Wouldn't it be a little silly, not to mention masochistic, to participate in a forum that advertises in the name the presumed interests of the participants, if one were entirely and militantly against these productions?

No, because this is a discussion thread, where people air their opinions pro and con. That's the whole POINT. Ree, I am not saying you aren't an intelligent person because it's clear that you are,, but this is not a thread for praising or hyping the movie, it's a thread for discussing the movie.

And I don't get the sense that Allyson is against the the production, just that she preferred the series and is not all hepped up about the movie. I am more excited about the movie than she is, and that's fine. Some folk here are more excited than I am, some less, but every person's opinion matters and can be shared here.


Cass - Apr 23, 2005 11:15:08 am PDT #1305 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I agree with Robin as she is wise.

It's the Grand Prix she's dissing.
But this is just sad to me.


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2005 11:33:27 am PDT #1306 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The grand prix of cars going round in a circle? C'mon, now.

Ree, I don't see why anyone cares if Allyson hates or loves Serenity. And unless l'm trying to change your mind, defensive probing of my stance on a show seems odd.

I think we've fuffled before on the idea of hating a show or episode (forget Spiral, think Billy). Mostly we're a bunch of people that care enough to nitpick. There's a lot of love, but it's neither mandated nor 100%. Ever.


Cass - Apr 23, 2005 11:53:41 am PDT #1307 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Yeah, cars going round and round... It's madness but I love it mightily.

Mostly we're a bunch of people that care enough to nitpick. There's a lot of love, but it's neither mandated nor 100%. Ever.
This is why I like discussing shows, life, and the serial comma here. We care (and think, independently even) enough to pick the nits.