Gunn: You saying popping mama threw you a beating? Lorne: Kid Vicious did the heavy lifting. Cordy just mwah-ha-ha'd at us.

'Underneath'


Spoilers 3: First Mutant Enemy, Now the World

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§ ita § - May 21, 2005 3:29:36 pm PDT #980 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know -- I was just riffing from there.


Steph L. - May 21, 2005 3:32:07 pm PDT #981 of 3486
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

'K. Just checking. I can live with my quips being unfunny to anyone but me, but I do hate it when, funny or not, the references are obscure.


Gus - May 21, 2005 3:34:57 pm PDT #982 of 3486
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

How do you define hero or good guy?

A hero is someone whose actions I should emulate. A bad guy is someone I should appose.

I should emulate Mal. He loves. I should not emulate Malwan. He does not love.

Mr. Bristow loves. This also pisses him off.

Jack of 24 does not love. He calculates.


Gus - May 21, 2005 3:36:23 pm PDT #983 of 3486
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

stoopid double posts


§ ita § - May 21, 2005 3:41:15 pm PDT #984 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Don't worry, Steph. No insect reflections here.

Jack of 24 loves, both big and small. He loves the big (the lives of the many) more than he loves individuals, and loves other people more than he loves himself.

Mr. Bristow loves. He loves one thing, with every fibre of his being. He wouldn't hesitate to sacrifice others, for that one thing's continued wellbeing. He wouldn't hesitate to sacrifice himself either.

Bauer saves the world because he cares about it. I swear, Bristow saves the world because it's his day job. And if his daughter didn't do it and/or didn't like it, he'd stop. Bauer would not. He might try, but it wouldn't take.

Is Jack of Lost a hero?


Jessica - May 21, 2005 3:51:33 pm PDT #985 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Ooh, battle of the Jacks!

(This is the part where the Alias/24 crossover in my head starts playing, which mostly consists of Jacks Bauer and Bristow speaking very slowly and quietly to each other, never breaking eye contact.)


Gus - May 21, 2005 3:54:04 pm PDT #986 of 3486
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Too damn many Jacks.

Jack Bauer does not give a fuck about the world, or the people in it. He cares about winning.

Jack Bristow gives a fuck about his daughter.

Jack of "Lost" tries to give a fuck, but he is not sure who should receive it.


§ ita § - May 21, 2005 3:54:17 pm PDT #987 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In my version, Jessica, StarGate!Jack interrupts them snarkily to remind them they have a mission to accomplish.

Which is to off Lost!Jack, and they do handily.

eta: Gus, I guess here is where we part ways. I see Bauer ache with the need to save the lives of the many, and the personal sacrifices he makes to do so. I loves me some Bristow, but he's dangerous because he's so selfish.


Topic!Cindy - May 21, 2005 4:05:58 pm PDT #988 of 3486
What is even happening?

Jack Bauer does not give a fuck about the world, or the people in it. He cares about winning.

Oh, no. Have you watched all four seasons Gus? If not, maybe this season assumes character development that was achieved in seasons 1 through 3. Jack very much cares. Jack is reckless while saving people (the near and dear, and the general population), but he's had a lot of positive reinforcement for his reckless behavior, because it always is what manages to save the day.

I see Bauer ache with the need to save the lives of the many, and the personal sacrifices he makes to do so.
Yeah. This.


Gus - May 21, 2005 4:23:28 pm PDT #989 of 3486
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Let us leave Jack Bristow out of this, because he is prettier than me, by a slender margin.

Jack Bauer. Oh sure, he would make pretty babies, if he could settle down for a minute. If he wanted to settle down for a minute.

However, I do not want those babies to be my future policepeople.

Stargate!Jack: He is spending the rest of his life fishing. No babies, there.