Damn, that's good shit, Cindy.
Wesley: We're going to bring Angelus in alive. Connor: No we're not. Gunn: I thought you said capturing him wasn't an option. Wesley: Changed my mind. Connor: Change it back.
'Why We Fight'
Spoilers 3: First Mutant Enemy, Now the World
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le nubian - May 14, 2005 2:58:47 pm PDT #917 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Jessica - May 14, 2005 3:28:20 pm PDT #918 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I also want him as my real President, please.
Seriously? I mean, I love the guy, but he doesn't have a great track record of actually preventing terrorist attacks. How long was he in office this time before starting a war with China? Ten minutes?
Gus - May 14, 2005 4:04:19 pm PDT #919 of 3486
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
I will take Dennis Haysbert over Bush as my real President. There is a much better chance that he will at least get his lines right.
Jessica - May 14, 2005 4:09:37 pm PDT #920 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I would take a shoe over Bush as my real President, so that's not really the issue.
I'm just saying if we get Palmer, we'd better make damn sure we get Bauer too, just in case the world needs saving.
Gus - May 14, 2005 4:17:02 pm PDT #921 of 3486
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
I'm actually having a problem with 24 in that they find a reason to torture someone in the name of national security every hour.
Bauer in charge of saving the world scares me more than a little.
eta: Ms. Asperger Syndrome 2005 Chole pumping out rounds from her M-16.This is just one sweat-soaked cammo headband away from a Rambo movie.
Topic!Cindy - May 14, 2005 4:45:58 pm PDT #922 of 3486
What is even happening?
Damn, that's good shit, Cindy.
Thanks, le nubian. I just googled. The Buffy fandom had such a professional spoiler network, I don't even bother to look for other-show spoilers most of the time, because I got so spoiled. I was surprised I found that so easily.
eta: Ms. Asperger Syndrome 2005 Chole pumping out rounds from her M-16.This is just one sweat-soaked cammo headband away from a Rambo movie.
Hee. To me, that was totally a Buffy-like power shot, at the end of the Chloe guns 'em down episode. Did you catch the are-you-on-crack look Jack gave her this week, I think when she offered to listen if he needed to talk? Comedy gold. Scott had me rewind the TiVo, three times.
Seriously? I mean, I love the guy, but he doesn't have a great track record of actually preventing terrorist attacks. How long was he in office this time before starting a war with China? Ten minutes?
True, but...but...but...step off my Woobie Prez. *sniff* I miss Lady McP, too. When we watch old episodes, every time she comes on the screen, I am compelled to say "Eeeevil."
I'm actually having a problem with 24 in that they find a reason to torture someone in the name of national security every hour.
Yes. It is disturbing, so I mostly don't let myself think about it, because this is really just a shoot 'em up, beat 'em up, get yourself all jacked up kind of show. Earlier this season, I kept waiting for there to be a little learning. Jessica talked me down at one point, I think. Then there sort of was a little learning, with Paul taking the bullet for Jack, but then Paul had to go and die, because Jack needed another guy to be healthy enough to be tortured, and that just ruined it. Jack's so not getting any more of Audrey.
Jessica - May 14, 2005 4:58:02 pm PDT #923 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Did you catch the are-you-on-crack look Jack gave her this week, I think when she offered to listen if he needed to talk? Comedy gold. Scott had me rewind the TiVo, three times.
That look was one of the best things I have ever seen on television ever. That was the look Tivo was invented for.
This has been very much The Torture Season, it's true. And there has been learning, if in a very roundabout way -- I'm pretty sure Paul was the only person Jack ever tortured who turned out to be innocent, and now he's dead and it's Jack's fault and now Jack is never, ever, ever getting laid again. So it's not like there aren't consequences.
Topic!Cindy - May 14, 2005 4:59:44 pm PDT #924 of 3486
What is even happening?
There's always consequences.
That look was one of the best things I have ever seen on television ever. That was the look Tivo was invented for.
It really was. I almost never laugh out loud at the TV, but I think I laughed every time we rewound it.
So Edgar and Chloe. Is their love so pure?
§ ita § - May 14, 2005 5:01:18 pm PDT #925 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Who's been tortured so far? Isn't there one CTU employee who was innocent was tortured without much "learning" there?
In fact, it was forever before torture had any benefit.
I'm not 100% against torture, mind you. It looks sexy when it's being done to Jack.
Gus - May 14, 2005 5:05:22 pm PDT #926 of 3486
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
I mostly don't let myself think about it because this is really just a shoot 'em up, beat 'em up, get yourself all jacked up kind of show...
Gotcha. It is still a little spooky that the subliminal message is that if you are Middle Eastern or Chinese, you gots some righteous torture coming.
Jack's so not getting any more of Audrey.
Go, Audrey. Really, Audrey. Step away from the torturer.
Jack is a great character. I hope the writers find some way to confront him with how far he has strayed away from his ethics.