Did you catch the are-you-on-crack look Jack gave her this week, I think when she offered to listen if he needed to talk? Comedy gold. Scott had me rewind the TiVo, three times.

That look was one of the best things I have ever seen on television ever. That was the look Tivo was invented for.

This has been very much The Torture Season, it's true. And there has been learning, if in a very roundabout way -- I'm pretty sure Paul was the only person Jack ever tortured who turned out to be innocent, and now he's dead and it's Jack's fault and now Jack is never, ever, ever getting laid again. So it's not like there aren't consequences.

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There's always consequences.

That look was one of the best things I have ever seen on television ever. That was the look Tivo was invented for.

It really was. I almost never laugh out loud at the TV, but I think I laughed every time we rewound it.

So Edgar and Chloe. Is their love so pure?

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Who's been tortured so far? Isn't there one CTU employee who was innocent was tortured without much "learning" there?

In fact, it was forever before torture had any benefit.

I'm not 100% against torture, mind you. It looks sexy when it's being done to Jack.

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I mostly don't let myself think about it because this is really just a shoot 'em up, beat 'em up, get yourself all jacked up kind of show...

Gotcha. It is still a little spooky that the subliminal message is that if you are Middle Eastern or Chinese, you gots some righteous torture coming.

Jack's so not getting any more of Audrey.

Go, Audrey. Really, Audrey. Step away from the torturer.

Jack is a great character. I hope the writers find some way to confront him with how far he has strayed away from his ethics.

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It is still a little spooky that the subliminal message is that if you are Middle Eastern or Chinese, you gots some righteous torture coming.

All the non-white people they tortured were shady, and gave up info. No white people have coughed anything up yet -- I don't think the moral is the one you're drawing.

One thing I can say for Jack. He thinks any one individual is expendable to save many, and he definitely includes himself. When Nikita-chick was initiating torture, it was from a privileged position of safety, and she damned well knew it.

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Isn't there one CTU employee who was innocent was tortured without much "learning" there?

Yeah, and the Sec of Defense's son. (Though judging by the promo, he may have been less innocent than we thought.) But that wasn't Jack, it was Curtis. Jack only tortures bad guys, and his girlfriend's ex-husband.

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Who's been tortured so far? Isn't there one CTU employee who was innocent was tortured without much "learning" there?

Yes, that woman, the pretty brunette analyst that could suffer neither Chloe nor Edgar. She was the one sucking up to the CTU chief (whose daughter killed herself in the CTU clinic).

Yeah, and the Sec of Defense's son. (Though judging by the promo, he may have been less innocent than we thought.) But that wasn't Jack, it was Curtis. Jack only tortures bad guys, and his girlfriend's ex-husband.

And I think Jack got tortured pretty badly this season, or was that from an earlier season I was just watching this season? Mmm. Maybe.

Hey, did Behrooz die? Did he die in a we-saw-the-corpse way. I know they made the exchange, and I figured Behrooz wasn't long for this world, but I can't remember seeing him die.

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Discussion about how non-non-whites have got the stuff to withstand torture seems to be in line with an Amurrican Gots The Rights! agenda/message.

I read somewhere (Kristin nee Wendy?) that Behrooz will be back.

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So far as we've seen, none of the non-whites had anything to tell. Well, other than Jack, but he's the hero, and has different rules.

The "others" have all been shady -- I think that's more of a message (though there are white bad guys -- so it's not much of one). The white folk can't tell what they don't know.

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Well, OK. I don't need any more messages from Fox that I should stay ignorant, either.

Nevermind my melanin.

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