I would also vote in favor of a no-whitefont thread. I'm willing to whitefont if that's what it takes to have a spoiler thread at all, but it's not ideal.

I strongly feel that, at the very least, this must be a NAFDA space where anything that's been aired can be discussed freely. Also any speculation. Whitefont, if we're going to have it at all, should be reserved for actual spoilers only.

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should we decide if this thread is NAFDA or not

It's got to be NAFDA. A spoiler thread where we can't talk about stuff that's already aired means the terrorists have already won.

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For the record, I couldn't give a shit whether we whitefont or not. I'm willing to do whatever. I really don't mind the white font.

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I agree it's got to be NAFDA. I didn't even realize that was an issue.

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Back before the earth cooled, when there was no spoiler font, people used to post spoiler warnings, and leave a space (to give the brain time to catch up with the eyes) and then post their spoilers, right in regular colored font. Would something like that work as a compromise between the people here who prefer white font, and the people here who prefer to talk openly?

Example:

Buffy spoiler

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I heard Buffy's getting a little sister.

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Lost Spoiler

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They're on an island

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Is that worse than white font, for the people opposed to white font? Better? The same? How about for the people who don't want everything open. Would you be able to skim past that?

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Is that worse than white font, for the people opposed to white font?

Yes, much.

(No real rational reason why, but spoiler space makes my teeth itch even more than whitefont does.)

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No real rational reason why

Here's one: It's completely unsuited to a forum. Spoiler space worked okay for mailing lists and usenet, where you were looking at one message at a time and could hit next or delete or whatever to skip the message entirely. When you're scrolling through a page of successive messages, it simply doesn't work -- you're going to see the stuff anyway, and in the mean time, you make the page longer to scroll and harder to read.

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(No real rational reason why, but spoiler space makes my teeth itch even more than whitefont does.)

I don't think you need a rational reason. It either works or irks. In this case, it irks.

Here's one: It's completely unsuited to a forum. Spoiler space worked okay for mailing lists and usenet, where you were looking at one message at a time and could hit next or delete or whatever to skip the message entirely. When you're scrolling through a page of successive messages, it simply doesn't work -- you're going to see the stuff anyway, and in the mean time, you make the page longer to scroll and harder to read.

Oh. I learned it on a linear board. Still, I don't love it, either. If I had my own way, it would be a free-for-all in here, but I don't watch much TV anymore, and never have been bothered much by spoilers. I was just trying to think of a compromise that would leave all groups happy enough. Spoiler space is obviously not it. There may not be an it.

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Chiming in to say I'd prefer no white-font as well, but will live with it if necessary. Not sure how we handle the decision, though. Would it need to be an official vote, or an in-thread show of hands (aka bullshit consensus)?

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I really dislike the whitefont, myself, and once I'm in Spoilers, I'm happy to be spoiled about any show. I guess the question really is, is this thread for complete spoiler 'hos?

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Here's another question: should we go to Bureaucracy and get a Lost spoilers thread? Would that solve some issues?

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