Jayne: That's a good idea. Good idea. Tell us where the stuff's at so I can shoot you. Mal: Point of interest? Offering to shoot us might not work so well as an incentive as you might imagine.

'Out Of Gas'


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§ ita § - Oct 10, 2009 12:52:44 pm PDT #2753 of 3486
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I read somewhere that two fan favourites die in the battle against Lucifer. I wondered if that's what had pissed shrift off. It's not like the show really has two people available to get killed off and still have Bobby and Ellen survive.


Marcia - Oct 10, 2009 1:00:01 pm PDT #2754 of 3486
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

That may indeed be what pissed shrift off. I think the two fan favorites to die will be Sam and Dean, but I also think that might be a relative term considering what we're dealing with this season.


Morgana - Oct 10, 2009 5:07:13 pm PDT #2755 of 3486
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

the little boy/demon spawn, who is supposed to be the anti-Christ

So Sam is no longer considered to be the potential anti-Christ? (Or was that just in the tons of fanfic that I've read?) I know in actual Show he's been called The Boy King and something about a general, or leader of Azazel's army... was he ever actually referred to as the anti-Christ?


Atropa - Oct 10, 2009 5:51:16 pm PDT #2756 of 3486
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

was he ever actually referred to as the anti-Christ?

Not that I remember. I think that was just a fandom thing.

It's not like the show really has two people available to get killed off and still have Bobby and Ellen survive.

If they kill off Bobby, I am going to be SO ANGRY. I will also be angry if they axe Ellen, but I am fiercely protective about Bobby.


Marcia - Oct 10, 2009 8:14:50 pm PDT #2757 of 3486
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

According to Kripke at Comicon, the anti-Christ and Satan are two different entities.

If I'm not mistaken, I thought they had established that Lilith and Ruby were among the few demons aware of Azazel's end game. Based on that, I'm assuming the other demons thought Sam was only to serve as the anti-Christ/Boy King.

And perhaps it's a plot hole.


le nubian - Oct 10, 2009 8:23:02 pm PDT #2758 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

okay, so is Christ Himself going to show up?


Fay - Oct 10, 2009 10:06:55 pm PDT #2759 of 3486
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

In Ruby's first conversation with Sam (well, after saving his ass in the house - the conversation over fries) didn't she say something about him being the antiChrist? Or am I misremembering?

...if Christ Himself shows up, he'd better be a black guy. ijs. At this point, Show has A LOT of making up to do. (Personally, if I were Cas on a mission to find God, I'd be looking thoughtfully at Morgan Freeman. And maybe Obama.)


Marcia - Oct 11, 2009 3:51:00 am PDT #2760 of 3486
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

didn't she say something about him being the antiChrist?

Yes, you're right, however I'm chalking that whole scene up to her feeding into Sam's own assumptions about Azazel's plans for him.

I'll go for Morgan Freeman as God, or even Keb' Mo' since I love his music.


sumi - Oct 11, 2009 4:38:10 am PDT #2761 of 3486
Art Crawl!!!

"Supernatural" source has confirmed that the ubiquitous and From Mo Ryan's Column:

A Supernatural source has confirmed that the ubiquitous and talented Mark Sheppard (the actor who has his own Full Employment Act) will play a "pivotal" crossroads demon named Crowley in Episode 10 of the season. The episode is called "Abandon All Hope...," and it was written by Ben Edlund and will be directed by Phil Sgriccia. It's the final "Supernatural" episode of 2009 (the show will resume its fifth season with new episodes in 2010. More than a month without "Supernatural"? Say it ain't so!). The episode is "epic" and will "definitely ... have the fans on the edge of their seats going into the holiday 'hellatus,'" my source said.


sumi - Oct 11, 2009 4:47:16 am PDT #2762 of 3486
Art Crawl!!!

I think that the thing that Shrift was most likely appalled at is Sam and Dean at a Supernatural con. (I hope this means we get to see Chuck again.)