She ain't movin'. Serenity's not movin'.

Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'


Spoilers 3: First Mutant Enemy, Now the World

[NAFDA] Spoilers for any and all currently running TV shows. All hardcore spoilage, all the time. No white font.


Jessica - Mar 13, 2007 12:26:07 pm PDT #1876 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Do the four (Tigh, Anders, Tori, and Chief) seem like they really didn't know they were Cylons? I mean -- is their shock real.

Oh, it's very real. At the end of the ep, they're all still in shock, and not a small amount of denial. Unlike Boomer, who was activated to do something (she didn't know for sure she was a Cylon until she shot Adama), these four seem to have simply been switched on. They know they're Cylons, but they don't know why. They don't know what they've been programmed for, why they were placed in the fleet, or why they've been activated now. So they're all not only freaked out that they're Cylons, they're freaked out that they might be programmed to sabotage the fleet in ways they're not aware of yet.

I think the Final Five might be a Cylon splinter group with a completely separate agenda from the other 7. It's just a hunch, but I can't shake the feeling that 4/5 (at least) of them being the leaders of the human resistance on New Caprica is significant. That they have a different plan, and that it's somehow connected to Earth.

What did you like best about it?

The editing. The construction of the narrative, especially of the second half, is pure brilliance, the way it builds.


Sean K - Mar 13, 2007 3:18:03 pm PDT #1877 of 3486
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I have basically not been able to watch this entire season (I caught the first two or three eps, and that was it).

I really need to catch up on BSG.


Cass - Mar 13, 2007 3:35:09 pm PDT #1878 of 3486
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

(PS, spoiler feedback is TEH BEST CRACK EVAR. I'd almost forgotten how much fun spoiling is! Silly me!)
Oh it is fantastic fun to be spoiled as well. I enjoy reading your spoils more than the actual shows sometimes. Which? Craxy.

But now I am looking forward to the next eps much more than I was at the end of the last show. Go figure.


starlight - Mar 13, 2007 4:02:59 pm PDT #1879 of 3486

In your review you wrote, Roslin approaches Adama on the bridge to console him about the verdict. Only...it turns out he was the swing vote. Roslin is not happy. If they were having a secret affair before, they aren't anymore.

What do they say to each other? Does Roslin say she never wants to see Adama again? Is there any indication that Adama already knew about the cancer?


Jessica - Mar 13, 2007 5:15:44 pm PDT #1880 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I can't remember her exact words, but she makes it clear that in her mind, he let her down by letting Baltar walk free. I think she'll forgive him eventually, but it will be a while before they're back to calling each other up in the middle of the night to chat. Their jobs have finally gotten in the way of their relationship in a way neither of them is ready or willing to back down on.

Adama definitely knows about the cancer before the trial begins -- he tries to stop Lee from questioning her about the camala root and is overruled by the other judges. (So it's clear that he knew she was taking it, and why.)

DH just reminded me of a point I'd forgotten about (and that everyone seems to) -- Hera is no longer the only Cylon hybrid baby in the fleet, because Tryol's son is half-Cylon too.


le nubian - Mar 13, 2007 5:21:50 pm PDT #1881 of 3486
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Jessica,

do you think it is likely that Roslin is having the dreams because she was injected with cylon blood? That her being the 5th is a red herring?


Jessica - Mar 13, 2007 5:26:34 pm PDT #1882 of 3486
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

do you think it is likely that Roslin is having the dreams because she was injected with cylon blood? That her being the 5th is a red herring?

I have no idea. I wouldn't even call it a red herring -- it's not directly suggested by the text, it's my own hunch/theory.


Daisy Jane - Mar 13, 2007 5:30:32 pm PDT #1883 of 3486
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

5thing the Jess is an awesome spoiler ho. Really, on a day I needed to smile, that went a long way.


Samara - Mar 13, 2007 5:32:49 pm PDT #1884 of 3486

You've left me utterly thrilled. Thank you, Jessica!


rose - Mar 14, 2007 8:52:34 am PDT #1885 of 3486

Thanks Jessica. This spoiler stuff is great.

I think that D'Anna was apologizing to Anders for threatening to kill him in the garage back on Caprica, but it could easily be Saul.

What I was wondering, how did you feel about the Starbuck reveal at the end? Might they edit that out before it airs? It just seems so fake to me.