'Safe'
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If they all wake up in their beds the next morning I am going to be really angry.
Absolutely. I would, however, like to see an episode in which one of the characters (perhaps with the aid of Dr. Locke's Crazy-Making Head Ointment) dream/hallucinate that they've been rescued--as long as it's a brief flash, and not a whole episode.
At some point, I'd also like at least one of the characters to freak out about their family thinking they're dead, worry about who's feeding the cat, etc.
This is how things transpired in my head...
Locke and Boone had been going out to the jungle by themselves for how long...a week? They had spent roughly 8 hours a day together for 7-8 days. During that time, I'm sure they talked about a helluva lot and I'm fairly sure Shannon came up A LOT. Locke probably recognized that there were the foundations of an unhealthy relationship, but of course he didn't know about the stepcest.
So after Boone kept pushing to tell Shannon their secret, Locke decided he needed to "free" Boone - for his own good.
At some point, I'd also like at least one of the characters to freak out about their family thinking they're dead, worry about who's feeding the cat, etc.
Absolutely.
It just occured to me that it makes sense that Sun would be the one getting on with life and preparing to be on the island forever andnot worried about teh rest of the world - she was getting ready to disappear out of her old life anyway (until Jin got all charming at the airport and she couldn't leave him). She was mentally prepared for everyone (her father, etc) thinking she was dead or kidnapped or something.
At some point, I'd also like at least one of the characters to freak out about their family thinking they're dead, worry about who's feeding the cat, etc.
I think this is what all the staring into the ocean/fire is supposed to be assumed to be.
Ooh, this is also a good point about Sun. I wonder what happened with all the plans-to-be.
It just seems like a weird thing to say to me after Jack saved his life in a much more immediate way more recently.
Yeah, that sort of amused me, because he was rhapsodizing to *Jack*, who had saved his life *twice*, including charging back into the teeth (or rotors, or id-manifesting tentacles...) of Lostzilla to do so.
Team Mother Abigail (good guys): Jack, Sayid, Michael, Sun, Hurley, Shannon, Kate, Sawyer. (Kate and Sawyer not being your traditional 'good', but who here is? I don't see either of them falling under the thrall of whatever this thing is. Also, while both of them have dirty pasts, I think they like the idea of being one of the cool kids.)
I hope I'm wrong, but there's been a lot of hints that Sayid's vulnerable to being Team Flagg, at least for a period of time.
IMO, Locke is the Mayor of Crazytown, Emperor of Crazyonia, and also his side is bad.
Heh.
Locke knew immediately that the danger to Shannon had been imagined -- he should have known that there was a hallucination, but not perhaps what it was, and indeed not that she hadn't come to any harm -- so did he have some sort of insight/tie/control that allowed him to know that?I don't think it is that complicated. Locke wasn't tied up for the duration of Boone's hallucination. He was around, and had probably seen Shannon recently enough to be reasonably certain she hadn't come to harm, plus he was reasonably certain Boone had hallucinated, and was probably reasonably certain Boone was just coming out of the hallucination. He already knew from Boone, that Boone wanted to tell Shannon about the hatch--so Locke knew Shannon was on Boone's mind, just before he slipped Boone the hallucination-mickey. And didn't both he and Boone see her, within minutes/seconds of Boone jumping him (as he was coming out of the hallucination)?
I think if Jack could have worked out a way to get everyone to go to the caves, he'd have used it. Because he thinks they'd be better off that way.
Yes, but would he have drugged or tricked them or used them as bait to do it? I don't think so. He didn't even say 'I'll only treat people who live in the caves'; in fact, he walks down to the beach to treat people, he doesn't even make them come to the caves much less live there.
IMO, Locke is the Mayor of Crazytown, Emperor of Crazyonia, and also his side is bad.
Seconding JZ's insistence that the ones who hit and tie up their community members without a good excuse are badder than the ones who have a (rather stupid) reason. Also, I am inclined to think that having an agenda that may interfere with a survival situation (i.e., intentionally causing rifts in the community), prima facie, means evil or deeply fucked or both.
I mean, this is television, but generally speaking pursuing an agenda without informing the people on whom you are pursuing it is a good way to get (a) yelled at (b) run outta town (c) killed and eaten or (d) a civil war started. If Locke is a good guy, why isn't he telling people about his agenda? Because it is an evil agenda that people will hear about and be like, "Dude? You're evil. Get outta town."
Re: the compass Either there just is that much magnetic variation (that is, they're not where they think they are), or (as Sayid appears to think) Locke gave him a screwed up compass on purpose, or there is something of significant magnetic whosits on the island that would throw the readings off. What sort of power generation (ie, such as that necessary to run Rousseau's chamber of music, torture and twisted love) would generate significantly disruptive magnetic fields?
If they're not where they think they are or they're that far off of magnetic north, then the compass still works. You just compensate for the variation, and you can still use it. But if there is magnetic whosits going on, all bets are off as to the compass working consistently.
I've done a very tiny amount of dead reckoning sailing (i.e. navigating by map and compass with no landmarks), and it's amazing how small a magnetic whosits can mess up a compass at close range. We sailed over a spot where someone had junked a car many years before, and the needle went zoom off one way and came back once we'd passed. Not an active magnet, that -- just a big block of rusted steel under the hull, and the compass was momentarily useless.
So, big Black Rock of Plot Significance -- definitely has potential.
He didn't even say 'I'll only treat people who live in the caves';
Well, Locke wants everyone to follow his way, but he feeds everyone. I think the main difference in how far acceptable means go -- he did, after all, think torture was a reasonable idea. So he's not above a little persuasion.
(who was used as bait?)