Wash: I didn't think you were one for rituals and such. Mal: I'm not, but it'll keep the others busy for a while. No reason to concern them with what's to be done.

'Bushwhacked'


Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR  

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Megan E. - Jan 07, 2005 2:55:24 am PST #4448 of 10000

I forgot to include my initial reaction which was --why are Sawyer and Kate playing in the water and acting so friendly?

I thought that too, but my first reaction was "why did Kate take off her pants and Sawyer still has his on?"


Topic!Cindy - Jan 07, 2005 3:36:57 am PST #4449 of 10000
What is even happening?

I understand that singing and talking use completely different bits of brainmeat, and that facility with singing in some foreign tongue bears not at all on one's skill at talking in said furrin talky-speak.
Yes. I think this is why people who stutter, don't stutter when they sing.
Sawyer is Spike. He just needs to do that annoying thing where he sucks his cheeks in and cocks his head like a dog being shown a biscuit, and he'll tell Kate, "I know I'm a monster, but you treat me like a man."
Coffee. On my monitor.

I don't know how they'll flesh out Sawyer's characterization, but I know how ought to flesh out in the real world. He is the one I'd chuck. First. And every time he came back, thereafter. And they always come back. These boys don't grow up and get better. Hitting them with the magic of love, has the same effect the tazer had on BtVS's s4 Adam. They're bad news. Eventually age may mellow them to the point where they're innocuous, at least physically, but I feel like doing an adult public service annoucement Sesame Street filk, every time I read someone wants to F Sawyer.

These are the assholes in your neighborhood
In your neighborhood
They're in your neighborhood
Oh, these are the assholes in your neighborhood
They're the assholes that you meet
When you're walking down the street
They're the assholes that you meet, each day.

If that island cures this particular malady, I'll be more impressed than I am by Locke walking.


brenda m - Jan 07, 2005 3:44:12 am PST #4450 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Ok, still madly crushing on Sawyer, but yeah, Cindy's totally right about that one.

Sad thing - real world, I'd probably still F Sawyer, but for once my intimacy and trust issues would actually come in handy and prevent it going any deeper.


§ ita § - Jan 07, 2005 4:04:25 am PST #4451 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have nothing against the F of an assholish guy like Sawyer, really. I mean, there's a reason no one's picking M.


DCJensen - Jan 07, 2005 4:36:16 am PST #4452 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

also? terry o'quinn confirmed at the fuselage that that was maggie grace singing.

Cool.


Lyra Jane - Jan 07, 2005 5:09:58 am PST #4453 of 10000
Up with the sun

Cindy, I agree that if Sawyer were a real person, I would recommend everyone back away from him, and fast. But as a TV character? Yeah, I'd do him.

(I don't know if there are any other men on the island I would F but not M. Some, I want to do both to more than others, -- I'd take Charlie before Sayid, and Sayid before Jack -- but they're all very, very pretty. Boone is pretty, but he has too many issues, so I'd do neither.)


§ ita § - Jan 07, 2005 5:14:28 am PST #4454 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think Sayid is more attractive than either Michael or Sawyer, but he would oddly lose out if I could pick just one F and one M.

F is for the arrogant charmers you don't want to have breakfast with.


Nutty - Jan 07, 2005 5:22:55 am PST #4455 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

The real question is whether there are any characters with sufficient emotional cruelty to knock Sawyer out of his high castle. Assholes do sometimes reform, but it generally requires debasement, a lot of psychotherapy, and possibly a good thrashing.

Or, I have just described Woobie 2.0, and we'll all be desperately sick of the various tender, redemptive name-squish pairings. Sate! Jawyer! Chawyer! Surley! -- see? It wasn't meant to be.

I have to admit, I really like the idea of a character whom nobody really knows, and who can ultimately be known only by her actions. Until we see Kate actually get eaten by a mechasaur, we can't rule out that she might be the one with the secret mechasaur joystick.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 07, 2005 5:50:32 am PST #4456 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The real question is whether there are any characters with sufficient emotional cruelty to knock Sawyer out of his high castle.

I suspect that both Jin and Locke possess it, but not the motivation or ability to use it on Sawyer.


Betsy HP - Jan 07, 2005 6:03:04 am PST #4457 of 10000
If I only had a brain...

People like Sawyer are the reason F, C, M exists. In the imaginary wonderland that is FCM, you can use Sawyer like a Kleenex and then discard him without repercussions.