I got the impression that she's basically a good person who needed to commit a crime because of something sentimental and possibly twee.

But I judge bitchily.

But, I mean, she did shoot the bad guys on her way out.

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I'm assuming the plane was in the safety deposit box.

Are we 100% certain that the toy airplane was what was in the safety deposit box?

It seems we are meant to assume that, but its not neccesarily so.

I'm still trying to work out the details for myself but it seems like a lot of work to hold up a bank to retrieve a toy airplane out of a safety deposit box. The cost of the box and the security provided would indicate that either the toy plane has more value than I'm originally inclined to think or that there was something else in the box that we don't know about yet.

I'm also recalling the beginning of the season when Kate and the Marshall were on the plane and he says to her like "Do you really think they'll believe your story" and I'm wondering what it is that Kate said to him and if it has anything to do with the robbery and/or toy plane.

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I thought Kate was bullshitting with the "man I loved" bit. Not so much the "man I killed," though.

I did have some trouble with the bank set-up, though. In what world does the bank manager get all "you're going to kill me anyway, I refuse to hand over the goods" anyway? The whole elaborate scheme just didn't hang together for me.

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Oh, re: "Beyond the Sea:" I felt very sad for Rousseau when I read the lyrics upthread.

Except you shouldn't since the original French lyrics are more of an ode to the sea than a song about lost love. The two sets of lyrics have a very different vibe. Don't even get me started on "My Way."

And damn, the actress playing Shannon has a nice singing voice

Was that the actress's real singing voice, or was she dubbed?

I'm assuming it was dubbed because Shannon's pronunciation in the translation scene was very very bad whereas in the song it was pretty good.

And yes, the words written on the paper (as far as I could tell) were the lyrics to "La Mer".

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And yes, the words written on the paper (as far as I could tell) were the lyrics to "La Mer".

I think so too, because I remember seeing "argent" written and thinking it was another bad translation when she said "silver." (It does mean silver, but it also means money, and that was the first meaning my mind went to, my French being worse than Shannon's.)

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Of course, her French seems to come and go, because, like you said, the first meaning most people would think of was money, and that she said silver (which is the proper translation for the song) and also (if memory serves) knew the word for pond, doesn't jive at all with her complete mistranslation of the distress call. And, as I said, for someone that lived with a family in St. Tropez, her pronunciation was really really bad.

t nitpicky

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Maybe Sawyer didn't take his pants off because he's going commando.

Also:

IOW, his jealousy at the end of last night's ep wasn't so much sexual jealousy as it was jealousy over the fact that the island's resident smart guy was relying on Shannon for help on an important project instead of him.

You make alot of sense there Anne.

I was wondering where the "man I love" that Kate killed was her father too. Also -- guessing that Ranger!Daddy taught her the gun skills too.

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I would think "argent" meant silver rather than money because I don't know French at all, just the periodic table.

Do the french lyrics for "La Mer" signify anything relevant to the island? I can find the lyrics in French, but not a translation and I have no French, so...

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Do the french lyrics for "La Mer" signify anything relevant to the island? I can find the lyrics in French, but not a translation and I have no French, so...

Nothing that jumps out at me. I'd translate, but everytime I try to do that with lyrics it comes out wrong like a wrong thing.

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I don't know why, but I read "man I love" and "man I killed" as a misdirect, of one kind or another, and so because this:

I got the impression that she's basically a good person who needed to commit a crime because of something sentimental and possibly twee.

...is what I suspect, a child seemed a good substitute for whatever she is lying about. She's a lying liar telling lies, and I'm so afraid it's going to end up that she's lying about something horribly sympathetic. I blame Memorex!Giles.

I loved the Blue Lagoon opening, complete with Fantasy Island-type music. Because: (1) Sawyer hot. Sawyer SO HOTT. (2) All I could think was "You're stranded on the Island of Fucked-Upped-ness -- this idyllic swim is going to have a nasty side."

Sawyer squicks me so freaking badly, I can't even see the pretty. I know there's pretty if I look at pictures of the actor, but the character just makes me cringe all the time. Last night, I finally figured out why (I am not one who has to watch from the hall too often). He is just too close to my own soul sucking demon of yore, for me to enjoy that he's a hot, manipulative redneck. My soul sucking demon was not a redneck, as he lived in one of the hearts of Old Yankee Land, but that's only a matter of geography.

In a moment of marital amusement, we were watching last night, and Sawyer did something particularly assholish, and my dh yelled out the name of one of his own brothers, as I yelled out soul sucking demon's name.

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