Oh. My. God, I loves me some Fury, I do. Love love love him.

Freaking nutty Mimbars. We knew it was coming 'cause of the opening credits. Hive guy is totally gonna die, I think that new secondary characters are being introduced so that the killing off of them can occur.

Cleolinda funny. Have new tag to prove it.

The comic misdirect thing bugged, as it always did on Angel. But that's just me.

Why is Michael being such a suck dad!? He could have given Walt his turn on the golf course!

But overall, good episode. A lot of island stuff, that's the way I like it.

But overall, good episode. A lot of island stuff, that's the way I like it.

I agree. When I rewound the tape to check the French, I ended up rewatching the episode, but fast-forwarded through most of the flashback scenes.

Why is Michael being such a suck dad!? He could have given Walt his turn on the golf course!

Nora! I thought that same thing! I cannot believe he just sent him back to the cave. Really he should be encouraging him to do something super active so that he will sleep at night.

I think that Michael is a good guy, but really has some stuff to learn, and quick, about being a dad. Which makes sense. I think it's harder in their situation because as a long-time non-dad, it's hard to get a good idea as to how to parent without Institutions like school, and what kids are "supposed" to do, and stuff.

Gah. He knows enough to keep him away from Locke (although he is unaware of the whole forbidden fruit factor) but not enough to find someone beside the 9 month pregnant chick or the non-english (at the time) speaking chick as a babysitter.

I think he just wanted to have some Michael fun time. Which is understandable, but... as a parent... (as I understand it) that's pretty hard to do.

I think he just wanted to have some Michael fun time. Which is understandable, but... as a parent... (as I understand it) that's pretty hard to do.

What made me crazy was the point when Walt was all "Can I take Vincent to the beach?" and Michael was like "No," and Walt was all "But I'm bored!" and Michael was like "Well, you'll have to come up with ways to entertain yourself." And I was like, oh, ways to entertain himself like playing with his dog down at the beach maybe?

I think they're doing a really good job of portraying a man who just has no interest in parenting, but has a kid anyway, but man, he pisses me off.

He didn't actually send Walt back to the cave. I got the impression he thought he could leave Walt there and he'd be there when he got done--hanging with the crowd, watching the game. It's one of those things you learn never happens if you raise them from a toddler, but when they just look like smaller adults, it's harder to figure out.

Yeah -- he should have been more specific in a "wait here for five minutes and then we'll take Vincent to the beach" kind of way.

I was just annoyed with Michael because it seemed like Walt was interested in taking a turn playing golf, and Michael was all "surely SOMEONE will give you their turn, out of the kindness of their... oops, gotta go, I'm up!" Because, you know, duh, Michael, give the kid your turn maybe?

Michael was all "surely SOMEONE will give you their turn, out of the kindness of their... oops, gotta go, I'm up!" Because, you know, duh, Michael, give the kid your turn maybe?

That confused the fuck out of me too, Kate. I was all, hello? I mean, he scored points before for knowing his birthday, but he kinda sucked in this episode. I thought he was trying, but he's hardly doing that anymore...which, of course, throws him into Locke's clutches.