That was a great ep analysis from the Sayid POV, Beverly.
The BtVS/AtS mapping going on everywhere is a hoot. Also, I love Foxy too, wish he could at least be Wesley, dammit. But I fear he is indeed R*l*y. crap.
Mal: Okay. She won't be winning any beauty contests anytime soon. But she is solid. Ship like this, be with ya 'til the day you die. Zoe: 'Cause it's a deathtrap.
'Out Of Gas'
Lost: OMGWTF POLAR BEAR
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candyb - Nov 11, 2004 3:12:32 am PST #2119 of 10000
TomW - Nov 11, 2004 3:22:13 am PST #2120 of 10000
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."
During the peanut butter scene, I was a little bugged at how healthy and happy Charlie looked. I turned to Nora and said, "He's handling that withdrawal pretty well, I guess." She immediately replied, "Well, he *is* hallucinating..."
After that, watching DM eating imaginary peanut butter seemed a little darker than it had before.
sumi - Nov 11, 2004 4:29:38 am PST #2121 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!
Bwah!
And -- Claire -- that is a French name, right?
Lee - Nov 11, 2004 4:33:47 am PST #2122 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
I agree with most of your analysis, Beverly, but I also think there are other layers involved. There was one point where Sayid definitely was not listening to Jack, as he went after Sawyer once Kate was done talking to him. As Sayid was leaving, he said something to Kate about "what I did, what I wanted to do." I think if Sawyer hadn't gotten his hands free, Sayid might have hurt him a lot more.
As I was typing this, it occured to me that in that block of time, maybe Sayid was listening to Locke, instead of to Jack.
Hmm.
sumi - Nov 11, 2004 4:36:25 am PST #2123 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!
To Locke? You mean, in his head?
Beverly - Nov 11, 2004 4:55:24 am PST #2124 of 10000
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Lee, you're right, and I definitely think that was part of it. That he went into the situation, offered his skills and experiences to Jack as to his nominal superior officer, believing that following Jack's orders somehow absolved him of at least part of the responsibility for what he was doing "for the greater good." But that he didn't simply follow orders, that it--and he--did get out of Jack's and his own control was his concern, and the deciding factor in his going walkabout.
And at that, he couldn't just take a walk to clear his head, he had to have a purpose, a responsibility to the others on the island. Okay, granted, it's only logical that if you're going you might as well be mapping and useful. But still. Sawyer, and probably Jack, would have stomped off to clear his head without another thought. At least until they were in uncharted territory, where there be bears.
I may be reading entirely too much into Sayid's sense of responsibility, but to me it speaks to his training as a soldier as much as to his character.
Lee - Nov 11, 2004 5:07:21 am PST #2125 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Not so much in his head, sumi, as in spirit. Locke was clearly trying to cause more stress between the two, and made a point of giving Sayid a knife, so he could do more damage.
Beverly, I definitely think Sayid was following his training as a soldier last night, at least most of the time.
arby - Nov 11, 2004 5:07:38 am PST #2126 of 10000
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
OK, since no one answered me about the spoiler policy, here goes nothing.
ETRSpoiler
Oh and BTW, that wasn't Emma Caulfield. I could have sworn it was too, but no.
Jessica - Nov 11, 2004 5:08:21 am PST #2127 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Mmmmmmmmmmm, that was some good show.
If Not!Sawyer's used to conning people out of hundreds of thousands of dollars at a time, I have no trouble believing that he could get himself to Australia.
I'm so over Kate. She can die next.
Sayid is a nummy treat, and I'm glad we're getting to his story.
Charlie and Claire are adorable, but what was with Charlie making her carry her own bag? The woman's 8+ months pregnant, man!
beathen - Nov 11, 2004 5:09:18 am PST #2128 of 10000
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.
I have to chime in about Claire and Charlie. The blinvisible peanut butter was really sweet. When Charlie started to open his bag I was worried he'd brokered some kind of weird deal with Locke for it, but it was just his imagination and Claire liked. So yay!
This was the best scene of this episode! I had to rewind it so many times.
It's full. Full to the brim of mouth-watering, oh God, need a glass of milk, extra smooth... It's the best bloody peanut butter I've ever had.
His facial expression when he was doing this was priceless.