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Beverly - Nov 04, 2004 8:26:29 am PST #1564 of 10000
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I'm thinking Jack's the red herring. he's set up for us to believe in him as the hero, but he's not. I think he's definitely not what he appears to be, which is why he has no chemistry with the humans.

I think Sawyer is set up to be the bad guy, but we're going to find out he's actually the Han Solo guy, the reluctant hero, working hard at the bad-boy self-serving thing, but unable to come down ultimately on the dark side.

And, having experienced repeated shoulder dislocations, I was screaming at the tv, "No, no! God, don't pull! Support the elbow, rotate the arm slowly but firmly until you feel it slide into place! Dumb writers! Dumb!" Also, the agony would be before the re-location, flare into white-hot at the moment of, and then magically stop. Like, instantly. Why, thank you young rock god!


Deena - Nov 04, 2004 8:30:46 am PST #1565 of 10000
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

The reason Jack said that Kate would see there was little difference between him and Jack is because:

a. They're both gay and hot after Sayid, and/or
b. They're both criminals or have committed unethical acts (four years ago?)


Vonnie K - Nov 04, 2004 8:31:21 am PST #1566 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Well, it'd be amusing if they implied Charlie's withdrawal also included uncontrollable diarrhea, but this is not Farscape after all.

Maybe he's a pediatrician.

Or, maybe Sawyer dropped out of medical school after a crisis of conscience and has become a redneck poet-philosopher. And his copy of Watership Down is peppered with notes in the margins that expound the nature of man and its complexities in an unpredictable universe. Or maybe pictures of naked women.


TomW - Nov 04, 2004 8:33:07 am PST #1567 of 10000
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

Okay, so I have a general TV-writing question.

Stuff like this, little stuff, like the correct way to re-locate a shoulder, or how triangulation works... Is the problem that the writers aren't using google as efficiently as the could, or is the problem that they just don't care?

Or am I setting up a false dichotomy? I am, aren't I? Dammit! A Masters in Philosophy and I don't know any better than to set up a false dichotomy! Idiot.


Scrappy - Nov 04, 2004 8:36:01 am PST #1568 of 10000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I saw a person relocate a shoulder at a rehearsal just like they did on the show last night, so maybe there's more than one way?


Jessica - Nov 04, 2004 8:40:40 am PST #1569 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Stuff like this, little stuff, like the correct way to re-locate a shoulder, or how triangulation works... Is the problem that the writers aren't using google as efficiently as the could, or is the problem that they just don't care?

Little of both, I think. Mostly, they don't want to bog down the dialogue with medical/tech exposition, so they try to put things in the simplest terms possible. And usually, that involves consulting their expert and then saying "Okay, but if we wrote it like this instead, would that be okay? For television?"


shrift - Nov 04, 2004 8:41:58 am PST #1570 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Thank you, Vonnie. I now have hot tea up my nose from excessive snorfling.


Beverly - Nov 04, 2004 8:42:02 am PST #1571 of 10000
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Aha, Robin. If that's true, then there may be, and I retract my criticism.

But Mel Gibson smashing his shoulder into a filing cabinet? I think not. Owie.


Nutty - Nov 04, 2004 8:43:06 am PST #1572 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think the problem is, it's possible to relocate a shoulder joint ten ways from Sunday, but half of those ways will hurt more and not work the first time, and 1/3 of them will cause the nerve to get pinched in the socket.

Or various complications like that.


Vonnie K - Nov 04, 2004 8:43:49 am PST #1573 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

There are lots of different ways to pop back a dislocated shoulder as listed here. The one I've seen used the most require sheets and two people providing traction-counter traction, but there are one-person methods. Can't recall which one Charlie was using in that ep though.