I am also thinking, shoulder dislocations are not fixed by pulling on the arm in any random direction -- there is, like, a protocol for doing it, and it usually requires two people, to pull on the victim patient in two different directions.

Although it would be not quite so much fun to see Jack lose and arm to nerve death or something, just like we are not (yet) seeing Charlie's withdrawal symptoms include vomit.

Okay, it was moths. Magic moths.

And I was thinking the same thing as Nutty -- it's more like "Rotate my arm 90 degrees -- AIIEEE SCREAM OUCH -- wait 30 seconds and let go."

I think I figured out what really annoyed me about this episode-- the stuff with Sawyer.

My eyes were already rolling a bit at the "poor little Sawyer got his feelings hurt, so now he's not going to tell Kate what he came all that way to tell her" part. When this was followed up by his accidentally telling her anyway, it irritated me. You've made it clear Sawyer is not stupid, people. Go with that.

When this was followed up by his accidentally telling her anyway

I didn't buy that it was an accident. I think he chose his moment to "let it slip"

Oh, I think it was accidentally-on-purpose. "Oh, silly me, did I slip?"

I don't think he accidentally told her - when he "let it slip", it was clearly on purpose. At least, that is how I remember it - no Tivo or tape to check, darn it.

lovely x-posty goodness.

Much as I like Jack, I sort of wish J.J. killed him off as he'd planned to from the beginning. I'd have liked to see Kate taking the de facto leadership role of the gang without all this starry-eyed school girl infatuation crap getting in the way, the heavy-handedness of which doesn't reflect that great on the character. Plus, Kate has more interesting dynamic with Sayid, or even with Sawyer anyway.

Been briefly to TwoP, and wow, the Kate-hatred is pretty rampant there. I kind of feel bad for the character.

I thought that Sawyer was momentarily motivated to go tell kate, and then got smacked down, and returned to form. The only weird thing was that he hauled his ass out to Kate and Sayid in the first place.

Everything else I thought was in character. Meeting up with them was plot-contrivance-y.

Oh, I think it was accidentally-on-purpose. "Oh, silly me, did I slip?"

I didn't get that from the scene, but YSawyerMV, I guess. Either was, it, like the getting his feelings hurt, was so predictable. It would have been nice to have Sawyer (or anything in the episode) suprise us.

eta: Plus if he had told her right away, of course, it would have left Sayid and Sawyer alone, which is as it should be.

I don't hate Kate.

But Jack? Bores me. Matthew Fox is pretty but doesn't seem to have a lot of chemistry with the other characters, and the character as written, particularly in this episode, is devolving into a fairly generic Good Guy Hero. Kate at least got pissy with Sawyer, which is nicely flawed.

I think the writers are trying to write a female hero, and having a hard time doing it while still satisfying the network's need to have a male hero around.

And I'm with Vonnie on not being impressed with Kate's schoolgirl crush. For all that she insists on staying on the beach to preserve the possibility of rescue, she sure dropped that transmitter fast enough when she heard Jack was hurt. Esp. since she left it with someone she really believes is in no way trustworthy.