Much as I like Jack, I sort of wish J.J. killed him off as he'd planned to from the beginning. I'd have liked to see Kate taking the de facto leadership role of the gang without all this starry-eyed school girl infatuation crap getting in the way, the heavy-handedness of which doesn't reflect that great on the character. Plus, Kate has more interesting dynamic with Sayid, or even with Sawyer anyway.

Been briefly to TwoP, and wow, the Kate-hatred is pretty rampant there. I kind of feel bad for the character.

I thought that Sawyer was momentarily motivated to go tell kate, and then got smacked down, and returned to form. The only weird thing was that he hauled his ass out to Kate and Sayid in the first place.

Everything else I thought was in character. Meeting up with them was plot-contrivance-y.

Oh, I think it was accidentally-on-purpose. "Oh, silly me, did I slip?"

I didn't get that from the scene, but YSawyerMV, I guess. Either was, it, like the getting his feelings hurt, was so predictable. It would have been nice to have Sawyer (or anything in the episode) suprise us.

eta: Plus if he had told her right away, of course, it would have left Sayid and Sawyer alone, which is as it should be.

I don't hate Kate.

But Jack? Bores me. Matthew Fox is pretty but doesn't seem to have a lot of chemistry with the other characters, and the character as written, particularly in this episode, is devolving into a fairly generic Good Guy Hero. Kate at least got pissy with Sawyer, which is nicely flawed.

I think the writers are trying to write a female hero, and having a hard time doing it while still satisfying the network's need to have a male hero around.

And I'm with Vonnie on not being impressed with Kate's schoolgirl crush. For all that she insists on staying on the beach to preserve the possibility of rescue, she sure dropped that transmitter fast enough when she heard Jack was hurt. Esp. since she left it with someone she really believes is in no way trustworthy.

I think Sawyer, while smart, is also totally that petty.

Plus, Kate has more interesting dynamic with Sayid, or even with Sawyer anyway.

See, but with keeping Jack, we get triangly tensiony goodness.

Plus, the previews for next week seem to be a good indicator that Jack's willingess to go all torturey will diminish some of that starry-eyed school girl infatuation.

For all that she insists on staying on the beach to preserve the possibility of rescue, she sure dropped that transmitter fast enough when she heard Jack was hurt. Esp. since she left it with someone she really believes is in no way trustworthy.

Yeah, what's up with that?

I think next week has the potential to turn some people around on Jack, Sawyer, and Kate.

I also think it will give us some nice surprises about Sawyer.

Yeah, what's up with that?

That's bad writing, I fear.

For all that she insists on staying on the beach to preserve the possibility of rescue, she sure dropped that transmitter fast enough when she heard Jack was hurt. Esp. since she left it with someone she really believes is in no way trustworthy.

Yeah. I'm totally into flawed characters, but that was much with the WTF-ness. Sort of left a bitter taste in my mouth, 'cause it reminded me of all the eyerolling I used to do at Sydney going to pieces over her man-troubles.

I gather next week's ep is Sawyer-centric? I have a feeling they're gonna bring out the hoary cliche of "little Sawyer was beaten regularly by his drunken Pop and ended in a juvie, which made him be all twisted, but he's actually a good guy in the heart! Really!", which would be predictable and annoying. Plus, that storyline has already been covered elsewhere (and done very well) in TV land recently.

I have a feeling they're gonna bring out the hoary cliche

Heh. That would appeal to the side of me that sekritly likes the hoary cliché when I'm in the mood for it, but narratively, it'd be boring.

Sawyer said he wasn't that different from Jack, right?

Maybe he's a pediatrician.