Jayne: Captain, can you stop her from bein' cheerful, please? Mal: I don't believe there is a power in the 'verse that can stop Kaylee from being cheerful. Sometimes you just wanna duct tape her mouth and dump her in the hold for a month.

'Serenity'


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Dana - Mar 06, 2005 9:20:28 am PST #9693 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

But can he sing? I mean, REALLY sing? That's a pretty intense part, vocally.

Yeah, such was my blink. Mostly. I suspect we'd end up with more of a growling Sweeney than a singing one.

And man, what's her face from Phantom would almost inevitably be cast as Joanna, wouldn't she.


Sean K - Mar 06, 2005 9:45:55 am PST #9694 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Vin's referrred to as the Baby Whisperer, because he was often the only one who could get the babies to stop crying.

It's very likely the voice.

I know that voice is part of the reason I'm such a Vin fan.

But can he sing? I mean, REALLY sing? That's a pretty intense part, vocally.

Well, he does front his own rock band. Though I imagine the vocal requirements for 50 Odd Foot of Grunts, or whatever the band's name is, is significantly less than those for the role of Sweeney Todd.


Jessica - Mar 06, 2005 9:54:05 am PST #9695 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Well, he does front his own rock band.

Having seen the Bacon Brothers in concert (shut up, they were opening for the Nields), I can say with authority that being a movie star with a rock band has very little to do with singing ability.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 06, 2005 10:16:26 am PST #9696 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yeah... I've seen some decent crossovers from the other direction (Bowie leaping immediately to mind), but Christian Kane is the only actor I've seen who might actually have had a career as a musician without benefit of the notoriety from acting. And his band hasn't hit it big even so.


Vonnie K - Mar 06, 2005 12:05:25 pm PST #9697 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Kathleen "Bird" York [link] is pretty good, although I'm uncertain as to whether her acting career preceded her musical one.


Polter-Cow - Mar 06, 2005 12:10:09 pm PST #9698 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Bruce Willis and the Accelerators!

Okay, I have no idea how they are, but I like Bruce Willis and I like the name.


Gris - Mar 06, 2005 12:56:22 pm PST #9699 of 10001
Hey. New board.

When casting big-name actors for Broadway musical adaptations, you can't really hope for Broadway-quality voices most of the time, sadly. However, there are better choices and worse choices: I thought Ewan MacGregor and Nicole Kidman both had perfectly decent voices in Moulin Rouge (not that the parts were extremely vocally demanding), for example, while, on the other hand, Richard Gere was so the opposite, vocally, of the crooner Billy Flynn (Chicago) is supposed to be that his solo caused the broadway musical freak in me physical pain. He did ace the acting parts of the role, though, and everybody else was decent, so that one caused me few complaints.

Based solely on the trailer, it looks like the cast of Phantom of the Opera was chosen for some completely unfathomable reason that has nothing to do with singing talent (the last note of "Music of the Night" in that trailer truly screeches painfully through my head. I do it better than he does there. And the sad thing is, they had infinite chances to make it not suck, and it still sucked!) OR huge Hollywood names. But that's another complaint for another time (and after I see the movie, maybe I'll change my mind. But I doubt it.)

The only real question I have for a Sondheim movie is this: will they actually let Sondheim be involved? After all, he's very much alive. I hold out hope that he won't allow a movie to be made without him getting input on the cast and direction.

EDIT: On the other hand, an adaptation of the play Sweeney Todd, the one without singing (many people don't know about it), would almost certainly be awesome with those two actors. Though if the rumor actually mentioned Sondheim, then that's clearly right out.


Betsy HP - Mar 06, 2005 12:58:21 pm PST #9700 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

chosen for some completely unfathomable reason that has nothing to do with singing talent

They wanted a young, pretty Christine. Then they cast her and decided they had to have young, pretty actors, or else it would look cradle-robby. Thus all the young, pretty, voiceless stars. (Raoul was actually pretty good.)


Jessica - Mar 06, 2005 3:15:58 pm PST #9701 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Then they cast her and decided they had to have young, pretty actors, or else it would look cradle-robby.

Right, because that kind of squick would have totally contradicted the source text.

t head explodes for the umpteenth time


Gris - Mar 06, 2005 5:28:33 pm PST #9702 of 10001
Hey. New board.

Well, to be fair, the source text wasn't the novel, it was the original musical. And it did a pretty good job contradicting the novel all by itself. (shrug). Still, there really are young pretty people out there with pretty good tenor voices, if not many truly operatic ones. They could have used one of those.

A pretty Phantom is silly by either source text, of course, but this movie was never going to be a horror film. Sadly. And you can't really see whether the phantom is truly ugly when you're watching the play, usually.

Now I want to go watch the silent Phantom again...