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Betsy HP - Feb 28, 2005 11:23:56 am PST #9514 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

She wasn't in A Knight's Tale

I am sooo embarrassed. That was Shannyn Sossamon.

However, I shall hastily rebound to claim that any actor who can be mistaken for another actor is not a Star. Of course, this wipes out Kirsten Dunst and Reese Witherspoon, but I'm good with that.


Scrappy - Feb 28, 2005 11:25:46 am PST #9515 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Keira Knightly is a hot property, but not a star. Cruise can get a movie made just by agreeing to be in it. That's a true star (to the Studios--not to me. I think he's blah). They greenlight his pictures because people will go to a "Tom Cruise" movie here and in Europe and Latin America. He is the deciding factor--not the plot or genre or director.


Jesse - Feb 28, 2005 11:26:53 am PST #9516 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I can go as far as agreeing he's played characters with different hair ...

Hair AND EYES.


§ ita § - Feb 28, 2005 11:27:32 am PST #9517 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I shall hastily rebound to claim that any actor who can be mistaken for another actor is not a Star.

Did you go to the Halle Berry School of Accepting Responsibility?

Which makes me think ... why isn't Denzel a star? My brain keeps telling me he's one (never mind what my loins are saying), but box office just doesn't match up.


Betsy HP - Feb 28, 2005 11:28:50 am PST #9518 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Did you go to the Halle Berry School of Accepting Responsibility?

Yes. It was all my agent's fault.


Betsy HP - Feb 28, 2005 11:30:28 am PST #9519 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Has Denzel done any popular candy movies? (MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE, OCEAN'S ELEVEN, that genre)


Nutty - Feb 28, 2005 11:32:13 am PST #9520 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

why isn't Denzel a star?

1. He isn't a franchise guy, to date.

2. He doesn't throw as much shit at walls as some; but it sticks better come Oscar time.

3. Stop me before I fall into elaborate throw/stick rate thinly-disguised ERA metaphors.


Betsy HP - Feb 28, 2005 11:32:49 am PST #9521 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Equal Rights Amendment?


§ ita § - Feb 28, 2005 11:33:55 am PST #9522 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Has Denzel done any popular candy movies?

Possible candidates include: The Siege, Crimson Tide, The Bone Collector. He also has The Preacher's Wife under his belt in the romance category, but that was a black movie, so it counts for half.

Wait! Training Day! It was his biggest opener too.

I'd just assumed he was bankable in the general market. But I think he has a) critical acclaim b) the ability to put black butts in the seats c) heartthrob status. But that's all.

Millions of men would like to be so unlucky, but still.


Nutty - Feb 28, 2005 11:34:21 am PST #9523 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Earned Run Average. For all values where the shit being thrown = horsehide, and the sticking to a wall = not being hit out of the park.