Yeah, I think The Killer may have been trying to be deliberately OTT, like, they weren't really asking us to take all that stuff seriously, right? I also recall thinking that Chow Yun Fat should really try to get it on with the cute cop instead of the girl, who was like a walking plot-devicey waif. Considering my slash-o-meter sucks ass (and it was pre-fandom, so I didn't even know what slash was that time), the fact that even *I* could see it really means something. I was sure they were gonna start going at it like bunnies right there near the end.
Spike: Taking up smoking, are you? Harmony: I am a villain, Spike. Hello!
Spike/Harm ,'Help'
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Vonnie K - Feb 24, 2005 8:30:19 am PST #9319 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
Frankenbuddha - Feb 24, 2005 8:32:37 am PST #9320 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Considering my slash-o-meter
You'd have to be actively beaming anti-slash beams 24/7 at yourself to avoid slash in a John Woo movie. Or at least in his HK stuff.
DavidS - Feb 24, 2005 8:33:36 am PST #9321 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
OTT Woo which was so shocking and cool upon first watching: the bad guy shooting people blocking his way on the elevator just to get them out of the way.
Ultimate Asian OTT: Ricky-O. He pulls somebodys guts out and strangles them with their own viscera.
Black Cat is the HK edition of the La Femme Nikita knockoffs. It's more bleak, but still stylish.
§ ita § - Feb 24, 2005 8:33:46 am PST #9322 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I almost stood up and cheered during The Killer when the antagonist/protagonist got so damned intertwined. It was like subtext coming out of the closet, and looking derisively back at the American movies still hiding in the shadows.
But we've had Angel since then, so it's okay.
I wouldn't say the genre doesn't know it's OTT. I think OTT is in the genre. It'd be like wondering if the opera singers knew they were singing so loud.
Frankenbuddha - Feb 24, 2005 8:44:50 am PST #9323 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Ultimate Asian OTT: Ricky-O. He pulls somebodys guts out and strangles them with their own viscera.
I've never seen it, but isn't that just one moment of many in Ricky-O that's ultimate OTT? I know the head smashing (one guy bringing his fists together and making the other guy's head explode ala Scanners) that used by on the Kilborn era Daily Show "Five Questions" segment is from that movie. And wasn't there also something about a giant industrial meat grinder?
I wouldn't say the genre doesn't know it's OTT. I think OTT is in the genre. It'd be like wondering if the opera singers knew they were singing so loud.
This is how I've always felt about it.
Scrappy - Feb 24, 2005 9:00:52 am PST #9324 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
ita nails it.
Sheryl - Feb 24, 2005 9:00:59 am PST #9325 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"
I saw Black Cat, or at least part of it, at Dragoncon.(They had a HK movie room) My own OTT-o-meter went off after the wedding massacre.
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 24, 2005 9:55:41 am PST #9326 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Well, crap. I just found out that I'm going to have to see Uwe Boll's House of the Dead 2 after all, as Mike Massa is doing the stunts and Rob Hall the makeup. Knowing that sequels are usually mere shadows of the original films, where does that put us with House of the Dead as the starting point in quality?
Tom Scola - Feb 24, 2005 10:45:38 am PST #9327 of 10001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500
The Onion reviews The Apple: [link]
Jessica - Feb 24, 2005 10:46:44 am PST #9328 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
Yay!