Mmm. Wife soup. I must've done good.

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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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Jessica - Feb 19, 2005 6:12:19 pm PST #9189 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Have now seen movie. And so bearing in mind that I am (a) very large with the Keanu love, and (b) almost totally unfamiliar with the source material, having only encountered Constantine before as a minor character in Sandman, I thought it did not suck. I wouldn't say it was a good movie, or even really a fun one, but I was frequently entertained, and not bored. (For reasons, see (a), above. Tilda Swinton also fairly rocked.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 19, 2005 6:37:59 pm PST #9190 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'll echo Jessica's opinion, though I am very familiar with the source material. Once you get past the sheer wrongheadedness of casting Keanu as a character whose primary personality traits are scheming intelligence and a predilection for biting, witty insults, it can be a fairly enjoyable flick. As expected, Tilda Swinton blew the roof off.

There were a couple of things that made me scratch my head, though. Like Methos in that awful Highlander movie, Hounsou's Papa Midnight just disappears from the film without explanation shortly before the climax. And it turns out the scenes that were (pretty effectively) used to portray Hell were what I'd heard described as Heaven in an apparently pathetically off-base advance article. Thus making me think that it had a much edgier and more revolutionary depiction of metaphysics than it did .


Polter-Cow - Feb 19, 2005 8:00:46 pm PST #9191 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I, too, thought it did not suck. It was not spectacular, but it was totally passable, and I liked it. When I say it's not spectacular, it's not that I can identify specific flaws but that what was there wasn't spectacular enough.

I'm a fan of good vs. evil battles and such, so I dug the mythology. Once I get around to reading Sandman, I should check out the comics.

It's fairly competently directed, though I felt a lot of scenes ended on odd notes. Maybe I can blame the editor for that sort of thing. And it was much slower than I expected, which was good because it's nice when a movie takes its time but bad because sometimes it drags.

Question: Gabriel's motivation reminded us of both The Prophecy and Dogma, but I swear there's another movie, maybe something recent, with an almost identical scene of a higher being of good expressing jealousy of God's treatment of human beings. It's not fair, etc. I can see it in my damn mind, but I don't know what movie it is. The whole part about bringing about hell on earth so that humans could be worthy of salvation was new, though.

Oh, and if you're not a credits-watcher, do stay, as there's a short scene at the end.


Vonnie K - Feb 19, 2005 8:37:59 pm PST #9192 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Huh. Did we know that they were remaking Brideshead Revisited? It looks like it'd be a feature film instead of a miniseries this time. Paul Bettany is a good choice for Charles, but I don't know about Jennifer Connelly as Julia. And of course, they *must* get Jude Law for Sebastian.


Angus G - Feb 20, 2005 1:41:06 am PST #9193 of 10001
Roguish Laird

The trouble with redoing Brideshead (and I include Jude Law in this assessment) is that whoever you get for any given part will inevitably be second-rate compared to who they got for the Granada TV series. I mean how could you possibly beat John Gielgud for Charles's father (even if he was approximately 1000 years too old to play the part, even then)--or Claire Bloom for Lady Marchmain?


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 20, 2005 4:22:28 am PST #9194 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The whole part about bringing about hell on earth so that humans could be worthy of salvation was new, though.

That was a neat new twist on the idea. While we'd seen a Gabriel that wanted to bring about armaggedon before, this one was doing it out of love rather than jealousy. Rather than begrudging humanity God's love, he/she/it wanted to make sure everyone lived up it .


Scrappy - Feb 20, 2005 7:02:16 am PST #9195 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Saw Constantine last night, along with Hitch. We went with our friend who did props for the movie, so there were many thumbs up for the coin (hand cast at a foundry for $400 each), the Holy Handgun, and the various and sundry scrolls and bibles and whatnot during the film. Keanu was sorely miscast, and Pruitt Taylor Vince did the same old same old, but Tilda rocked and I was impressed with Gavin Rossdale and that guy who played the nerdy research dude. It's also a gorgeous film to watch.

Hitch was a confection riding almost entirely on Will Smith's charm. Since that is considerable, it was enjoyable.


§ ita § - Feb 20, 2005 7:12:15 am PST #9196 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Saw Aviator last night, and Collateral yesterday morning. I understand precisely why Aviator is nominated for best picture, but it didn't really grab me. Well done, interesting, but not compelling.

And long, lordie, long.

Speaking of judging on own merits (okay, that was in Natter) -- I know nothing about how Hughes actually appeared, and only know Hepburn from movies, not interviews, etc. Were they spot on? They were good for a story that wasn't tied to real lives, but I couldn't judge them on anything more than that.

I really enjoyed Collateral, and realise there's no way Foxx could have got a leading nom for it, but he was definitely not supporting anyone in it.


Lilty Cash - Feb 20, 2005 7:12:20 am PST #9197 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

Any Rent fans- can someone explain a scenario in which they do two days of filming for the movie in Santa Fe that wouldn't be ridiculously silly?


Scrappy - Feb 20, 2005 7:13:38 am PST #9198 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Foxx owns Collateral.