Hey! I think that depth is there ... wait, this is one of those movies where my opinions are biased by all the pretty on-screen. Never mind.
Yeah, I fear neither of us have room to talk on Velvet Goldmine.
Actually, I was thinking it would be sort of like a pet. You know, we could...we could name her Trixie, or Miss Kitty Fantastico, or something.
Tara ,'Empty Places'
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P.M. Marc - Feb 15, 2005 7:57:20 pm PST #9105 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
DavidS - Feb 15, 2005 9:27:38 pm PST #9106 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Really, there's not much else to it, is there?
Tons more if you like pop history. There's hardly an image in that movie that doesn't allude to at least three other significant events of the London pop scene in the early 70s. It's extremely layered with throwaway visuals which reference specific song lyrics in songs which aren't playing. Like that. And it's all just slightly twisted askew so that Brian Ferry and Brian Eno get merged into one character who turns into the Bowie-conscience, while 80s Bowie conflates with Gary Glitter as ultimate pop whore. Toni's performance is almost equally Angie Bowie and Liza Minelli in Cabaret (a key text of the glam era).
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 15, 2005 10:25:15 pm PST #9107 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
On rewatch the Pretty always lets me down a bit in that Christian Bale is so detached and cold in the framing story when he's hotness incarnate, whereas all his sexual awakening scenes are done wearing an escaped Kristy MacNichol mullet.
Frankenbuddha - Feb 16, 2005 2:45:51 am PST #9108 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I think it's like a modern cross of Casablanca and Citizen Kane...
The CITIZEN KANE is blatant (and admitted), but where do you get the CASABLANCA in it?
juliana - Feb 16, 2005 5:01:54 am PST #9109 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
Tons more if you like pop history.
And therein lies the rub. I enjoy pop history, but not enough to get all of the references and allusions. I did see a lot of Liza/Sally in Toni's performance, and I did appreciate how bleak and cold the 80s felt as compared to the 70s, but for a person whose area of expertise is geared more toward Mr. Wilde and his predecessors? It was a lot of pretty, and some cracking good language.
No matter. It was still quite enjoyable, and I'll pick up the DVD if I ever remember to look for it on the shelves.
§ ita § - Feb 16, 2005 5:28:30 am PST #9110 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
With actual people. So it answers some questions upthread.
However -- it's not really being marketed as comedically as one might think.
Jessica - Feb 16, 2005 6:00:24 am PST #9111 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
What format is the trailer in? My computer doesn't want to play it.
[eta: Oh, there it goes -- it's just loading incredibly slowly.
Huh.
I would have gone a different way.]
P.M. Marc - Feb 16, 2005 6:25:45 am PST #9112 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
The CITIZEN KANE is blatant (and admitted), but where do you get the CASABLANCA in it?
You know, I used to be able to specifically point out where I get the Casablanca stuff from, but it's been months since I last watched it. Time for a rewatch.
And no, Hec, I'm not getting it just from 2HB.
On rewatch the Pretty always lets me down a bit in that Christian Bale is so detached and cold in the framing story when he's hotness incarnate, whereas all his sexual awakening scenes are done wearing an escaped Kristy MacNichol mullet.
Yet despite the MacNichol mullet and the really appalling clothing, he manages to have the single hottest sexual scene I've ever seen in a movie all to himself.
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 16, 2005 6:50:45 am PST #9113 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Point. I'd imagine there were people on set that day looking sideways at each other and whispering "He's not actually...?"
Sean K - Feb 16, 2005 8:07:27 am PST #9114 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
HHGTTG trailer.
With actual people. So it answers some questions upthread.
DAMMIT!
My speakers have chosen exactly NOW to crap out on me (they were working half an hour ago), so I can't hear it, but I like the look.
I think I'm as excited about this as I was about FotR.