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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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beekaytee - Jul 19, 2004 6:33:03 am PDT #895 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

On a completely different note.

I saw Outfoxed last night, the docu covering the Murdockization of all media. To say that the findings are outraging is an understatement.

It made me even more content with the fact that I haven't owned a tv in 6 years but even more despairing in terms of what can be done to stop the brainwashing of America.

I feel completely toothless. I live in a non-state with no representation in Congress and I can't very well threaten to stop watching Fox because, well...except for Firefly, Buffy and Angel dvds...I DON'T watch Fox!

::affecting faux Southern accent:: Oh Beauregard, what evah are we to do?


Steph L. - Jul 19, 2004 6:33:24 am PDT #896 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I got to see De-Lovely yesterday. My thoughts:

1. Kevin Kline is very, very good. He impressed the hell out of me.

2. Ashley Judd is beautiful. In the early part of the movie, when her character is younger, she reminded me in little ways of JZ. I can't quite explain how, except to say that photos from the movie don't capture it, so I think it has something to do with how she moved, and her general aura of effortless glamour. Plus her hair.

3. I didn't like the way the film was structured, because it kept yanking me out of the movie. My best friend, who saw it with me, really liked the structure of the film, so YMMV.

4. The costumes were to. die. for.

5. I don't know enough about Cole Porter's life to know if my impression is correct, but I thought his relationships with men were given just the right amount of emphasis, without ever descending into cliche. (The theatre we went to was -- seriously -- full of people aged 65+, and there were audible gasps the first time Kline kissed a man onscreen.)

6. Love the music. Love love LOVE it. But then, I always have. I even liked Alanis Morisette, which is a shocker.

7. Did I mention how very, very good Kevin Kline was? Manoman.

8. Definitely worth matinee price. (For those of us in Cincinnati, that's $6 at the art house theatre.)


sumi - Jul 19, 2004 7:16:06 am PDT #897 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Bryan Singer is the latest director to take on the Superman movie.


P.M. Marc - Jul 19, 2004 8:41:43 am PDT #898 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

t has sudden urge for Singer to do a World's Finest movie.


Calli - Jul 19, 2004 9:24:50 am PDT #899 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I saw Delovely last weekend, too. And I am Steph in most things, except for number 6. I don't think Alanis Morisette was up to her song. She seemed to be going for a breathy, strangled effect when the music required a fuller, richer voice.

But Kevin Kline was wonderful. I respected him and felt kinda sorry for him at the same time, because he has a lovely voice (you can catch him as the Pirate King in Pirates of Penzance with Linda Ronstadt sometime to hear it) and he chose to limit himself to Cole Porter's (apparently) none too phenomenal singing abilities.

I saw Delovely in a theater in Chapel Hill. So while there were many older folks in the audience, the reaction to him kissing a fella was pretty much non-existant.


Sean K - Jul 19, 2004 9:45:06 am PDT #900 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I saw I, Robot last night and didn't totally hate it. It was kind of rote filmmaking, but not horrible. And not as unfaithful to the source material as the previews make it seem.

My biggest problem was that Will Smith had a small handful of his lines Will Smith-ed up, and they always threw me out of the movie because the rest of the movie and the rest of Smith's performance were not very Will Smith in tone.


Jessica - Jul 19, 2004 10:04:06 am PDT #901 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

My biggest problem was that Will Smith had a small handful of his lines Will Smith-ed up, and they always threw me out of the movie because the rest of the movie and the rest of Smith's performance were not very Will Smith in tone.

That really bugged me, too. Especially when he kills VIKI -- "Oh, you really have to die now" sounded like a last-minute "Oh, fuck, we forgot to have Will Smith deliver a Will Smith-like quip before killing the bad guy. Quick, somebody write a snappy quip!"


Jeff Mejia - Jul 19, 2004 10:05:39 am PDT #902 of 10001
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Last night I rewatched Blade Runer (Director's cut) and I agree with much of what people have said. I have not seen the voice-over version in ages and I've forgotten what additional info the voice-over gives you.

So, um, what's the extra info?

As Nutty pointed out, Deckard was divorced, but also, M. Emmet Walsh's character was much nastier with the voiceover, not only being racist, but it was much clearer that he forced Deckard to take the job. I'm not sure if that comes through in a narration-less version.


Sean K - Jul 19, 2004 10:07:20 am PDT #903 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

That really bugged me, too. Especially when [whitefont]

Exactly. And it also ruined what otherwise would have been a nice reminder that Will Smith can act, and not just be Will Smith.


Polter-Cow - Jul 19, 2004 10:11:25 am PDT #904 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

it was much clearer that he forced Deckard to take the job. I'm not sure if that comes through in a narration-less version.

I'm not sure what's in the narration, but I thought it was pretty clear he was forced, what with Deckard's refusing in about seven different ways. I don't recall any specific malice, though. More the logical conclusion, "He didn't want to do it, yet he's doing it. He was forced." There's also the fact that he arrested Deckard to get him there. Clearly there's a sense of coersion involved.