Angel: You know, I killed my actual dad. It was one of the first things I did when I became a vampire. Wesley: I hardly see how that's the same situation. Angel: Yeah. I didn't really think that one through.

'Lineage'


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Sean K - Jul 19, 2004 9:45:06 am PDT #900 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I saw I, Robot last night and didn't totally hate it. It was kind of rote filmmaking, but not horrible. And not as unfaithful to the source material as the previews make it seem.

My biggest problem was that Will Smith had a small handful of his lines Will Smith-ed up, and they always threw me out of the movie because the rest of the movie and the rest of Smith's performance were not very Will Smith in tone.


Jessica - Jul 19, 2004 10:04:06 am PDT #901 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

My biggest problem was that Will Smith had a small handful of his lines Will Smith-ed up, and they always threw me out of the movie because the rest of the movie and the rest of Smith's performance were not very Will Smith in tone.

That really bugged me, too. Especially when he kills VIKI -- "Oh, you really have to die now" sounded like a last-minute "Oh, fuck, we forgot to have Will Smith deliver a Will Smith-like quip before killing the bad guy. Quick, somebody write a snappy quip!"


Jeff Mejia - Jul 19, 2004 10:05:39 am PDT #902 of 10001
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

Last night I rewatched Blade Runer (Director's cut) and I agree with much of what people have said. I have not seen the voice-over version in ages and I've forgotten what additional info the voice-over gives you.

So, um, what's the extra info?

As Nutty pointed out, Deckard was divorced, but also, M. Emmet Walsh's character was much nastier with the voiceover, not only being racist, but it was much clearer that he forced Deckard to take the job. I'm not sure if that comes through in a narration-less version.


Sean K - Jul 19, 2004 10:07:20 am PDT #903 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

That really bugged me, too. Especially when [whitefont]

Exactly. And it also ruined what otherwise would have been a nice reminder that Will Smith can act, and not just be Will Smith.


Polter-Cow - Jul 19, 2004 10:11:25 am PDT #904 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

it was much clearer that he forced Deckard to take the job. I'm not sure if that comes through in a narration-less version.

I'm not sure what's in the narration, but I thought it was pretty clear he was forced, what with Deckard's refusing in about seven different ways. I don't recall any specific malice, though. More the logical conclusion, "He didn't want to do it, yet he's doing it. He was forced." There's also the fact that he arrested Deckard to get him there. Clearly there's a sense of coersion involved.


Sean K - Jul 19, 2004 10:13:39 am PDT #905 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Oh, I forgot to mention this earlier, re: Blade Runner....

For me, it's not so much that the voice over adds necessary information, but it adds a certain tone to the movie.


Gandalfe - Jul 19, 2004 10:13:55 am PDT #906 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

I was just talking about this with someone yeasterday, and I was trying to think of SF films that are truly thoughtful, and I could only come up with about 5 - Alien, Blade Runner, 2001, Solaris, and maybe Andromeda Strain. Anyone have anything else to add to this list?


Sean K - Jul 19, 2004 10:16:34 am PDT #907 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

The Quiet Earth was pretty thoughtful, as was Solar Crisis.


Gandalfe - Jul 19, 2004 10:40:37 am PDT #908 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

The Quiet Earth was pretty thoughtful

Oooh, I'd forgotten that one.


Polter-Cow - Jul 19, 2004 10:44:59 am PDT #909 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I was trying to think of SF films that are truly thoughtful, and I could only come up with about 5 - Alien

Alien is thoughtful? I thought there was just the killin'.