I'm not sure how old he is, but I heard him use the word 'newfangled' one time, so he's gotta be pretty far gone.

Dawn ,'Beneath You'


Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

A place to talk about movies--Old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Lyra Jane - Feb 05, 2005 7:56:53 am PST #8876 of 10001
Up with the sun

I want a movie where the twist is in the first ten minutes, from which all trailers are made, giving the audience an entirely false impression as to what the movie is actually about.

That's Psycho, pretty much -- none of the trailers or promo materials made it known that Janet Leigh gets killed half an hour in.

And since Dakota Fanning creeps me out even when she's not evil and doesn't have Emily the Strange's hairstyle, I MUST see her as evil!precocious-girl.

SPOILER: The trailer makes it look like she's evil, and it seems like she might be for about half the movie, but she's not. She is being victimized and manipulated, and reacting to such in fairly reasonable ways, and it's REALLY not fun to watch once you find that out.

Plus, they kill a kitty.


Polter-Cow - Feb 05, 2005 8:08:42 am PST #8877 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

That's Psycho, pretty much -- none of the trailers or promo materials made it known that Janet Leigh gets killed half an hour in.

Good point! Now that's what I'm talking about.


Betsy HP - Feb 05, 2005 8:42:33 am PST #8878 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Saw Phantom. Doesn't this show usually have people who can sing in it?

Yes. But people who can sing aren't necessarily (A) very young and (B) very pretty. Joel Schumacher cared more about A and B than about singing.

Minnie Driver was dubbed for the operatic parts; she did her own singing only in the big pop ballad over the credits.

And, yes, the lipsynching was unbelievably bad.


Kathy A - Feb 05, 2005 10:20:03 am PST #8879 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

That's Psycho, pretty much -- none of the trailers or promo materials made it known that Janet Leigh gets killed half an hour in.

And Hitchcock used his pull as a financially successful producer to require theater owners to prevent anyone from coming late to the show. Before this, the traditional way to see a movie was just to drop by the theater whenever you wanted and go in, even if the film was halfway through, then you just stayed in the next showing until you saw where you came in, then you'd leave. Hitch used his ban on late entry as a promotional gimmick since he didn't want to put too much detail into the trailers, etc.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 05, 2005 1:06:27 pm PST #8880 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The Phantom of the Opera is not supposed to be played by someone whose looks people swoon over!


Lilty Cash - Feb 05, 2005 1:07:22 pm PST #8881 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

I had no problem with that. But then, the power of the swoon had taken me.


Vonnie K - Feb 05, 2005 1:11:20 pm PST #8882 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Just came back from seeing The House of Flying Daggers. Pretty, pretty scenery, pretty, pretty people, kick-ass martial arts sequences, especially the scene set in the bamboo forest--whoa. The only thing is, I found most of the dialog deeply silly. I don't know--maybe they weren't meant to be heroic, larger-than-life characters, or maybe the translator did a poor job. But still. Beautiful, mysterious blind warrior goddesses shouldn't be saying stuff like, "Are you for real?" What is she, a valley girl?


Jessica - Feb 05, 2005 1:54:49 pm PST #8883 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Minnie Driver was dubbed for the operatic parts; she did her own singing only in the big pop ballad over the credits.

Ah, that makes sense. How silly, though.

And, yes, the lipsynching was unbelievably bad.

Good to know it wasn't just my theatre. Usually AMC has pretty reliable projectionists.

The Phantom of the Opera is not supposed to be played by someone whose looks people swoon over!

Well...he is, but it's supposed to be because of the voice, making it extra creepy when he turns out to be old/disfigured/psychotic/still kind of hot because of the voice. Which just makes casting a young pretty nonsinger wrong on many levels instead of just the one.


Kathy A - Feb 05, 2005 1:55:51 pm PST #8884 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I just watched the DVD of Ray. Excellent, one of the better music biopics I've seen. One thing that made me rank it above What's Love Got to Do with It? is that it doesn't go for the traditional "Big Concert" ending, which is what I thought it would from seeing the trailer. I liked that the storyline ended with Ray finally confronting his failure to save his brother, even though it did go into the various awards he received in later years .

Out of all the various smaller roles in the ensemble, the one that really stuck with me was Warrick Davis, mostly because I had never seen him get that much facetime on screen before (caveat: I've never seen Willow). He really is a good actor, and one who should be getting more significant roles that don't cover his face with a full-body costume.


Betsy HP - Feb 05, 2005 1:58:00 pm PST #8885 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

The Phantom of the Opera is not supposed to be played by someone whose looks people swoon over!

Well, just think of it as Beauty and the Beauty.