No. And yes. It's always sudden.

Tara ,'Storyteller'


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§ ita § - Feb 04, 2005 7:27:53 pm PST #8868 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

TV promos thrive on that cut from an action to a reaction that belongs somewhere completely different place in the timeline -- but they can get away with it. I think a truly misleading/mindfucking trailer would alienate potential ticket buyers.


DebetEsse - Feb 04, 2005 7:33:44 pm PST #8869 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

If they were upfront about it, a "And that's just in the first 20 minutes", I think they'd be able to avoid pissing people off.


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2005 7:35:32 pm PST #8870 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I do think that the trend to overly didactic trailers may be a response to people not us who really want to know what they're spending their $8 on. And there are probably more of them than us.


DebetEsse - Feb 04, 2005 7:38:07 pm PST #8871 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Yeah. I try to forget about those people.


Sean K - Feb 04, 2005 9:15:34 pm PST #8872 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

TV promos thrive on that cut from an action to a reaction that belongs somewhere completely different place in the timeline --

These people come from the same school of marketing that brought us horribly misleading or outright false comic book covers, I think.


Alibelle - Feb 04, 2005 10:01:46 pm PST #8873 of 10001
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

For Alibelle, from IMDB

You know, it's probably a good thing I didn't see that before I went to the theatre today, or I might not have been able to gear myself up for the bus trip. However, I did see "The Wedding Date," and I thought it was great. I laughed, I grinned, I was impressed with the pretty clothes and the pretty places (they filmed at Lacock National Trust Village! I was there! It's so pretty there! That was totally awesome!).

I don't know. I enjoyed it. It was good, fluffy fun. It was also nice to see Debra Messing play someone who wasn't Grace, and I thought she did a great job with it.

AND there was a short ballroom dancing scene! Which was awesome. But maybe I'm easily pleased. But it was cool, and I think I might want to take up ballroom combat .


Angus G - Feb 05, 2005 2:40:50 am PST #8874 of 10001
Roguish Laird

The Enterprise confronts some horrible new adversary - and gets blown-up ten minutes into the show. The remaining 35 minutes is just a black screen.

Ha, yes, and the perfect 24 episode would be the one where they all take a nap for an hour.


Jessica - Feb 05, 2005 4:26:44 am PST #8875 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Saw Phantom. Doesn't this show usually have people who can sing in it? Christine was good, as was the soprano they dubbed in for Minnie Driver*, but yeesh, all the men! For Raoul, it doesn't matter so much, because he's supposed to be a giant tool, but one should not have to suspend that much disbelief during "Music of the Night." (And honestly, the ADR was so bad, I wondered why the didn't just use Michael Crawford's track from the OCR. It couldn't have synched up any worse than what they had.)

Even more depressing was the fact that our movie theatre was two blocks from the Majestic, where the real show was being performed on a real stage by real opera singers. All of the gothic 80's melodrama, none of the weirdly adjusted-for-non-singers musical arrangements! Oh well.

[* who apparently was Minnie Driver. I blame the bad ADR -- when lips and sound synch up that badly, I tend to assume it's because someone else is doing the voice.]


Lyra Jane - Feb 05, 2005 7:56:53 am PST #8876 of 10001
Up with the sun

I want a movie where the twist is in the first ten minutes, from which all trailers are made, giving the audience an entirely false impression as to what the movie is actually about.

That's Psycho, pretty much -- none of the trailers or promo materials made it known that Janet Leigh gets killed half an hour in.

And since Dakota Fanning creeps me out even when she's not evil and doesn't have Emily the Strange's hairstyle, I MUST see her as evil!precocious-girl.

SPOILER: The trailer makes it look like she's evil, and it seems like she might be for about half the movie, but she's not. She is being victimized and manipulated, and reacting to such in fairly reasonable ways, and it's REALLY not fun to watch once you find that out.

Plus, they kill a kitty.


Polter-Cow - Feb 05, 2005 8:08:42 am PST #8877 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

That's Psycho, pretty much -- none of the trailers or promo materials made it known that Janet Leigh gets killed half an hour in.

Good point! Now that's what I'm talking about.