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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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Jessica - Jan 20, 2005 7:57:40 am PST #8069 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

To be a truly GOod Bad Movie, it has to be utterly shameless. No irony, no sense that "We know better than to do this." Bad Movies glory in their decisions.

The Apple does this in spades, but because it is the Greatest Movie Of All Time, it needs no defending.

I just realized that DUNE and POPEYE are similar in that they are unmistakebly the work of idiosyncratic directors who are probably trying to tackle a genre/subject/whatev that's dead wrong for them.

The funny thing is that I do think Dune captures a LOT of the tone of the book, and in doing so illustrates perfectly why Dune should never have been adapted for the screen.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 20, 2005 7:57:48 am PST #8070 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Hm. So, where does Big Trouble in Little China fall? I mean, it glories in its decisions, and is shameless, and is fun, but a heaving pile of enthusiastic nonsense.

And very knowing nonsense on top of that. But I'm not sure I'd even call it bad - wouldn't it be like calling BUCKAROO BANZAI a bad movie?


Jessica - Jan 20, 2005 7:59:32 am PST #8071 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Ooh, has anyone else seen Oblivion? Now THAT'S a fantastic bad movie. Evil space aliens and bad bingo puns.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 20, 2005 8:01:48 am PST #8072 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The funny thing is that I do think Dune captures a LOT of the tone of the book, and in doing so illustrates perfectly why Dune should never have been adapted for the screen.

The biggest problem I had with DUNE, but also one of the reasons I enjoyed it so much, was that it was painfully obvious that Lynch wanted to spend all his time with the Harkonnens, and it threw the whole balance of the movie off.


Nutty - Jan 20, 2005 8:02:26 am PST #8073 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

While I can enjoy that kind of audience-winking, too, it can't beat sincerity for enjoyment of the form. "So bad it's good" shouldn't be on purpose, it spoils the fun.

I don't know. I find that unintentional badness is often less entertaining than its reputation leads me to expect. I saw The Evil Dead with a bunch of friends, and although I laughed, I laughed because of the friends, not really because of the movie. Whereas, The Evil Dead 2 had me in that laugh-so-hard-you-become-inaudible kind of place. The former was unintentionally bad, but the latter intentional.

Most of the time, if I find myself in vast cognitive dissonance with the director's intentions, I cannot enjoy the film, even to mock. I have to be won over in good faith before I can enjoy a bad movie.


Dana - Jan 20, 2005 8:02:31 am PST #8074 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

What about that movie with Rowdy Roddy Piper and the aliens? That's fun and not very good.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 20, 2005 8:02:58 am PST #8075 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Ooh, has anyone else seen Oblivion? Now THAT'S a fantastic bad movie. Evil space aliens and bad bingo puns.

Not to mention George Takei.


JohnSweden - Jan 20, 2005 8:04:06 am PST #8076 of 10001
I can't even.

What about that movie with Rowdy Roddy Piper and the aliens? That's fun and not very good.

They Live?


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 20, 2005 8:05:08 am PST #8077 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't know about everyone else, but They Live kind of falls down in the enjoyable department for me.


Steph L. - Jan 20, 2005 8:05:09 am PST #8078 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

the movie that occurred to me was one I flipped on to recently: FLASH GORDON.

Dude. Totally. As well as Clash of the Titans.

And.... Darby O'Gill and the Little People.