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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned

A place to talk about movies--Old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.

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Nutty - Jan 12, 2005 12:40:13 pm PST #7840 of 10001

"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Picking JR over Natalie Portman is equally crazy. And yet, and yet.

Let us recall that, for both men, JR was a pile of weeping silly putty, whereas NP tied them up in knots and then tied up the knots. JR was just less of a hassle, emotionally -- figure out her buttons, beep boop boop and you get what you want.

And while I find it irritating that the NP character was this standard kinderwhore wise-stripper type, I do like that she had power, and both men recognized that, and could neither take it from her nor assert a counter-pattern of power over her.

I'd have liked the movie as a whole rather more if the whole premise weren't "Lie, cheat, and steal your way into happiness!" But, given that premise, NP is the one who came out on top.

Jessica - Jan 12, 2005 12:42:24 pm PST #7841 of 10001

And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'd have liked the movie as a whole rather more if the whole premise weren't "Lie, cheat, and steal your way into happiness!"

You thought any of them ended up happy?

Nutty - Jan 12, 2005 12:45:40 pm PST #7842 of 10001

"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, for extremely cynical definitions of "happy", yes.

Gris - Jan 12, 2005 12:49:15 pm PST #7843 of 10001

Hey. New board.

If she was happy, she was certainly no more happy than at the beginning. That was the point of the parallelism of the ending, I thought.

I saw the premise as "people lie, cheat, and steal in order to get happiness, but it usually fails miserably."

juliana - Jan 12, 2005 12:53:22 pm PST #7844 of 10001

I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

If she was happy, she was certainly no more happy than at the beginning. That was the point of the parallelism of the ending, I thought.

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They changed the ending from the play, didn't they?

Jessica - Jan 12, 2005 12:55:46 pm PST #7845 of 10001

And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Yes.

Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 12, 2005 3:06:52 pm PST #7846 of 10001

"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I can't remember if "Alice" died at the end of the play version I saw, or if it was just that Dan found out she'd assumed the identity of the dead girl from the memorial. But the character struck me as way more damaged and out of control of her own life when I saw it live .

Gris - Jan 12, 2005 3:13:37 pm PST #7847 of 10001

Hey. New board.

Might want to spoiler-font some of that, Matt.

Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 12, 2005 4:10:19 pm PST #7848 of 10001

"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Is it really necessary? The movie's been out for over a month and I know I've discussed plot points from the play in another thread ages ago.

Jesse - Jan 12, 2005 4:18:14 pm PST #7849 of 10001

Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It seems kind of HSQ-ish to me, not having seen either the play or the movie.

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