Well, for extremely cynical definitions of "happy", yes.
If you want me to leave, you can put your hands on my hot, tight little body and make me.
Spike ,'Get It Done'
Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned
A place to talk about movies--Old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.
Nutty - Jan 12, 2005 12:45:40 pm PST #7842 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Gris - Jan 12, 2005 12:49:15 pm PST #7843 of 10001
Hey. New board.
If she was happy, she was certainly no more happy than at the beginning. That was the point of the parallelism of the ending, I thought.
I saw the premise as "people lie, cheat, and steal in order to get happiness, but it usually fails miserably."
juliana - Jan 12, 2005 12:53:22 pm PST #7844 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
If she was happy, she was certainly no more happy than at the beginning. That was the point of the parallelism of the ending, I thought.
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They changed the ending from the play, didn't they?
Jessica - Jan 12, 2005 12:55:46 pm PST #7845 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Yes.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 12, 2005 3:06:52 pm PST #7846 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I can't remember if "Alice" died at the end of the play version I saw, or if it was just that Dan found out she'd assumed the identity of the dead girl from the memorial. But the character struck me as way more damaged and out of control of her own life when I saw it live .
Gris - Jan 12, 2005 3:13:37 pm PST #7847 of 10001
Hey. New board.
Might want to spoiler-font some of that, Matt.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 12, 2005 4:10:19 pm PST #7848 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Is it really necessary? The movie's been out for over a month and I know I've discussed plot points from the play in another thread ages ago.
Jesse - Jan 12, 2005 4:18:14 pm PST #7849 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
It seems kind of HSQ-ish to me, not having seen either the play or the movie.
Lyra Jane - Jan 13, 2005 6:56:44 am PST #7850 of 10001
Up with the sun
About Closer's ending-changing, I felt like the ending the movie has suggests her death without showing it. She steps off the curb against the light (the walk signal next to her shows "don't walk"), and she doesn't look for traffic. How is it presented in the play?
Also -- I don't think anyone was happy at the end of the movie. Anna and Larry are *less* unhappy than Dan, but I think everybody's pretty miserable.
Also, are we supposed to think Alice slept with Larry, or that they were both lying about it to piss off Dan? I kind of like reading it the second way.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 13, 2005 7:13:16 am PST #7851 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I think Alice was getting too much of a charge from titillating Larry to actually sleep with him and dispel that mystique .