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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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Jessica - Jan 09, 2005 6:10:31 am PST #7748 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Whereas all I've heard about Flying Daggers is that it's pretty, but that it has even less story than Hero. Am I wrong?

IMO, yes, but I honestly don't know what people thought was missing from Hero (which I didn't find boring or plotless), so I'm probably the wrong person to answer. But I thought Daggers was better on every level.


tommyrot - Jan 09, 2005 8:22:00 am PST #7749 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Just a brief note: The Sphere is even worse than The Abyss


Nutty - Jan 09, 2005 8:25:16 am PST #7750 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, yes. In the makes-no-sense department, the short version of The Abyss just has that one final asspull, while the entirety of The Sphere is a steaming pile of nonsense.

Also, if you are willing to blink any time the aliens are onscreen, The Abyss is actually a clever, efficient slasher pic of the cabin-fever subtype. Got to love an antagonist who spends a whole conversation cutting slices out of his own arm.


Tom Scola - Jan 09, 2005 8:28:25 am PST #7751 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

To sort of repeat whatt Nutty said, drop the last half hour, The Abyss isn't a bad movie.

Drop the alien subplot altogether, and The Abyss is a good movie.


tommyrot - Jan 09, 2005 8:31:20 am PST #7752 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

while the entirety of The Sphere is a steaming pile of nonsense.

Yeah. I just kept on thinking, "This is badly written." Like, major stuff wasn't set up well, and the characters were often nonplussed about things that should have had them screaming, "WTF?!?" Oh, and the characters were idiots. These flaws sometimes distracted me from the non-sensemaking.


tommyrot - Jan 09, 2005 8:33:22 am PST #7753 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

To sort of repeat whatt Nutty said, drop the last half hour, The Abyss isn't a bad movie.

Yeah. When the aliens show up to Teach Us a Valuable Lesson About Peace and Love, is when the movie goes to hell.

Stupid hippie aliens....


Polter-Cow - Jan 09, 2005 8:38:07 am PST #7754 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I saw some movies on the plane. I,Robot wasn't too bad. About what you'd expect.

Catwoman was terribly awful, as you'd expect. The director may be on crack, and I have no idea why that movie got made at all, and why it still bothered to mention DC Comics. The bits I saw of Tarzan the Wonder Car were better.

Shark Tale was okay, though I found it interesting that the original title, Sharkslayer, may have been more appropriate, but maybe they decided that would give away the actual plot of the movie, which is one that's been done a thousand times. There were definitely some pretty good jokes, pop-culture and regular, but I couldn't get past how nonsensical the entire world was. They're fucking UNDERWATER and they're flipping through PAPER like it's NOTHING. They treat being underwater like everyone's just flying, or something. It made me miss Finding Nemo a lot.


tommyrot - Jan 09, 2005 8:41:11 am PST #7755 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I couldn't get past how nonsensical the entire world was. They're fucking UNDERWATER and they're flipping through PAPER like it's NOTHING. They treat being underwater like everyone's just flying, or something. It made me miss Finding Nemo a lot.

That's my major problem with SpongeBob


Polter-Cow - Jan 09, 2005 8:43:42 am PST #7756 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

That's my major problem with SpongeBob

Huh. I didn't even think of that. My problem with it was that it wasn't very funny (especially considering how popular it was among all age groups).


Nutty - Jan 09, 2005 8:43:45 am PST #7757 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Wait, Tarzan is a car now? Does that make Herbie the ape man?

I do think that, for the first 2 hours, the aliens in The Abyss serve a worthwhile purpose -- they put everyone enough on edge that the lead bad guy's insane paranoia doesn't stand out. So that you're not surprised that the characters don't notice he is insane till too late. Because, that dude was hella crazy, and if everyone doesn't have a good reason not to notice, the film suffers.

(At least, with The Thing, none of the characters had any idea what their paricular cabin-fever bugbear would be, since it was a totally new situation. But The Abyss explains what will go wrong with the lead bad guy in, like, the first 20 minutes, and then nobody remembers it till minute 100.)