She growls?! You made her so she growls?!

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Sean K - Jul 16, 2004 11:52:08 am PDT #715 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Sean ... there has been talk of a sequel for years. There was even talk of a tv series 2 or 3 years ago but nothing has come of it ... yet.

Oh, I know. I keep hoping a real project will gel, though.


DXMachina - Jul 16, 2004 11:53:40 am PDT #716 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I was only talking about I, Robot.

Yeah, but the rest of the stories take place in the same universe, and even feature the same characters, so if the screenwriters are claiming this is the tenth story, they're too late. Asimov wrote it years ago. And the eleventh. And the twelfth...


DXMachina - Jul 16, 2004 11:58:32 am PDT #717 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Except it was used for The Iliad in Troy, wasn't it?

Wasn't the Iliad inspired by a true story?


Miracleman - Jul 16, 2004 12:00:48 pm PDT #718 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Yeah, I read...I think there's an "official" Banzai Institute site out there, or maybe it was an interview with Earl Mac Rauch...that Rawhide was, ahem, "mostly dead" and Professor Hikita did something to save him, or one of the Adders produced an antidote or something.


Nutty - Jul 16, 2004 12:02:09 pm PDT #719 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Actually, I think there was a Troy, and I think it got sacked a few times, but that's all the true story there is in the archaeological record. The time period in which The Iliad is supposed to have happened was an illiterate one for all supposed parties, IIRC.


§ ita § - Jul 16, 2004 12:03:39 pm PDT #720 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

if the screenwriters are claiming this is the tenth story, they're too late

I think even they'd have to "claim" it, not claim it. Since IT'S A BIG BUNCH OF CRAP. Though that might not be the words they use. But it was quite the retrofit. Retcon. You know. ASSPULL.


tommyrot - Jul 16, 2004 12:08:16 pm PDT #721 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I want to see the film credits read, "An asspull of Asimov."


Thomash - Jul 16, 2004 12:21:23 pm PDT #722 of 10001
I have a plan.

NY Times review of IRobot. The end of the article threw me into Futurama mode and now I really want to see it (Futurama).


Jessica - Jul 16, 2004 12:24:17 pm PDT #723 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Hey sexy mama...you wanna kill all humans?


Polter-Cow - Jul 16, 2004 2:29:12 pm PDT #724 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So Ginger Snaps 2, as expected, is not as good as the first one. Pretty much all the complaints I've heard about it are valid. There's really no clever metaphor anymore; it's a straight-up horror flick now. That being said, it's still a fairly good horror flick, because rather than having a token main character surrounded by monster fodder, it has a bona fide protagonist who experiences such things as internal conflict and character development, and the supporting cast is not focused enough on so as to mark them as obvious monster fodder. But, as many have said, the ending...Christ. What. The fuck. Ever. I don't even want to whitefont an analysis of it; it's just so annoying. Regardless, the whole endeavor is almost worth it for this kickass exchange:

Brigitte: "I'm stronger."
Ginger: "Oh, really? That's not how I remember the last fifteen years of your life."
Brigitte: "That's how I remember the last fifteen minutes of yours."

Basically, I agree with what everyone told me: watch it to continue the story, but don't expect the quality of the original.