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Lyra Jane - Dec 09, 2004 5:35:49 am PST #6923 of 10001
Up with the sun

I read Natalie Portman's ranking as meaning that she is currently seen as a post-teen starlet, like SMG, but should go for more edgy material, like Parker. Which is confusing, because that seems to be what she is doing already anyhow. Buy I don't think it means "she should be less famous" so much as "she needs a different kind of fame."

Plus, the "three-named-Sarahs sound cool together" factor was probably in there somewhere.

I agree that Portman is very, very beautiful. I'm not sure I'd say she's so beautiful she takes you out of the material, compared to other movie actresses.


§ ita § - Dec 09, 2004 6:35:36 am PST #6924 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

By edgy and SJP do you mean her movie work?


Vonnie K - Dec 09, 2004 6:45:22 am PST #6925 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Has SJP done any significant movie-work though? The only thing that comes to mind right now is that Mamet movie she's done with Phillip Seymour Hoffman and Alec Baldwin.

Despite the taint of La Lucas, I'd say Portman has more talent & charisma than SJP. She just needs to fire the agent who steered her toward the SW prequels and stuff like that Walmart Baby flick.


Jim - Dec 09, 2004 6:51:14 am PST #6926 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

She just needs to fire the agent who steered her toward the SW prequels

I don't think so. She's what, 20 and she need never work again. She could afford to buy a mediumsized county on the back of Star Wars.


beekaytee - Dec 09, 2004 8:18:54 am PST #6927 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Not being remotely familiar with the books, and therefore not in a position to know better...I've been really enjoying the clips from Elektra on Apple's movie trailer site .

Until, that is...today. The fourth featurette involves a mentee to Elektra who is supposed to have similarly impressive martial arts skills but really? She looks kinda dopey.

Sigh. I so wanted to like it.

knives
chopsockey
Terence Stamp at his stampiest

Alas.


§ ita § - Dec 09, 2004 8:23:23 am PST #6928 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What's dopey about her? She's no SMG ... it looks like she's making the standard angry young kid messups, the stunt double's not totally obvious ... seems fine.


beekaytee - Dec 09, 2004 8:38:10 am PST #6929 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

On rewatch, the two things that pinged me in Elektra featurette four are that I'm weary of the [it will never change, I suppose] All About Eve, SWF, Wicker Park...she wants to be me conceit.

Can't young girls simply come over destructo-gal without it getting all oedipal?pun absolutely intended

and

I'm not getting a 'she can act' vibe off the youngin'

Perhaps unfair given the length of the clip, but the pout just didn't work for me.


§ ita § - Dec 09, 2004 8:42:58 am PST #6930 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think the reason your pun is a pun explains it all. Of course it's a story about unhealthy attachment to authority figures. It's just begging to be.

Of course, I've wanted to be Elektra lo these many years, so not precisely unbiased here.


Sean K - Dec 09, 2004 8:47:26 am PST #6931 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Weird. I woke up this morning with the love theme from Phantom of the Opera going through my head. I've only seen one ad for it, and that was weeks ago. I have no idea why I could recall it perfectly this morning.

I think Phantom will be significantly less impressive on the big screen, because you always see big, sweeping scenes like that in the movie, whereas when you see Phantom in the theater it's unbelievable impressive because they did all that on a stage, right in front of your eyes.


Betsy HP - Dec 09, 2004 8:54:38 am PST #6932 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I have no idea why I could recall it perfectly this morning.

1. Because Andrew Lloyd Webber is really, really good with the catchy tunes

2. Because they are repeated and repeated and repeated so often, both in the show and promotions, that you could sing them note-for-note yourself.