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§ ita § - Dec 09, 2004 8:23:23 am PST #6928 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What's dopey about her? She's no SMG ... it looks like she's making the standard angry young kid messups, the stunt double's not totally obvious ... seems fine.


beekaytee - Dec 09, 2004 8:38:10 am PST #6929 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

On rewatch, the two things that pinged me in Elektra featurette four are that I'm weary of the [it will never change, I suppose] All About Eve, SWF, Wicker Park...she wants to be me conceit.

Can't young girls simply come over destructo-gal without it getting all oedipal?pun absolutely intended

and

I'm not getting a 'she can act' vibe off the youngin'

Perhaps unfair given the length of the clip, but the pout just didn't work for me.


§ ita § - Dec 09, 2004 8:42:58 am PST #6930 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think the reason your pun is a pun explains it all. Of course it's a story about unhealthy attachment to authority figures. It's just begging to be.

Of course, I've wanted to be Elektra lo these many years, so not precisely unbiased here.


Sean K - Dec 09, 2004 8:47:26 am PST #6931 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Weird. I woke up this morning with the love theme from Phantom of the Opera going through my head. I've only seen one ad for it, and that was weeks ago. I have no idea why I could recall it perfectly this morning.

I think Phantom will be significantly less impressive on the big screen, because you always see big, sweeping scenes like that in the movie, whereas when you see Phantom in the theater it's unbelievable impressive because they did all that on a stage, right in front of your eyes.


Betsy HP - Dec 09, 2004 8:54:38 am PST #6932 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I have no idea why I could recall it perfectly this morning.

1. Because Andrew Lloyd Webber is really, really good with the catchy tunes

2. Because they are repeated and repeated and repeated so often, both in the show and promotions, that you could sing them note-for-note yourself.


Jessica - Dec 09, 2004 8:55:23 am PST #6933 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think Phantom will be significantly less impressive on the big screen, because you always see big, sweeping scenes like that in the movie, whereas when you see Phantom in the theater it's unbelievable impressive because they did all that on a stage, right in front of your eyes.

Everything I've seen and heard of the filmed Phantom leads me to believe that it will suck enourmously.

Everything that makes the show what it is is expressed via stagecraft, emphasis on stage. It could theoretically be adapted for the screen, but that's not what they're doing -- note Harold Prince's name in the production credits. They've taken a deeply intrinsically theatrical show and filmed it. It's going to feel wrong on every level possible.

The wrongness of casting a fucking model to play the Phantom himself (who, if the trailer is any indication, can't even fucking sing) needs no explanation.

(Signed, Too Old To Really Care About Any Of This, But When Has That Ever Stopped Me Before?)


§ ita § - Dec 09, 2004 8:57:34 am PST #6934 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm reading this IMDB snippet on His Dark Materials, and I agree that it would be pretty unsellable on a large scale with the anti-religious bent.

Fans of the Philip Pullman novel His Dark Materials have expressed outrage over news that director-screenwriter Chris Weitz (American Pie) has removed references to God and the Catholic church in the movie. Weitz told a website set up by fans of the novel, bridgetothestars.net, that New Line Cinema, the company producing the film, has "expressed worry about the possibility of perceived anti-religiosity." He said that the studio had told him that if the references remained, the project would become "unviable financially." He remarked that he had discussed the matter with Pullman, who had told him that the role of the Authority (God) in his book, could be transformed into "any arbitrary establishment that curtails the freedom of the individual." The religious villains in the film, he said, "may appear in more subtle guises." He added: "you will probably not hear of the 'Church.'" One fan posted a message on the website calling the changes a "blatant cop-out to the Bible Belt of America."

It is quite possible to read that as having New Line as the Authority, isn't it?

That tickles me.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 09, 2004 8:58:00 am PST #6935 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The wrongness of casting a fucking model to play the Phantom himself (who, if the trailer is any indication, can't even fucking sing) needs no explanation.

But will his costume have fake nipples and a codpiece? This is Schumacher we're talking about after all, right?


Betsy HP - Dec 09, 2004 8:58:46 am PST #6936 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

(who, if the trailer is any indication, can't even fucking sing)

And, y'know, there's no reason not to put a little movie magic in here.


Jessica - Dec 09, 2004 9:00:00 am PST #6937 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But will his costume have fake nipples and a codpiece?

Oh, I hope it does. But then, I'm a firm believer in crashing and burning with style.