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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

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Sean K - Nov 05, 2004 11:02:21 am PST #5429 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

do I go see Ray, Alfie, or The Incredibles?

Of these, I've only seen Incredibles, but it was absolutely amazing, so I strongly recommend it.


Polter-Cow - Nov 05, 2004 11:04:04 am PST #5430 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Best chick flicks of all time, where "chick flicks" seems to be defined more as something containing the phrase "female empowerment." Catwoman is nowhere to be found.


Betsy HP - Nov 05, 2004 11:05:10 am PST #5431 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

"Notorious," directed by Alfred Hitchcock

Oh, right. Where Cary Grant's contempt for Ingrid Bergman's sex life nearly gets her killed. Rock on, the empowered woman!


Consuela - Nov 05, 2004 11:05:55 am PST #5432 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Pretty Woman? Notorious? Argh.

I love Notorious, but I wouldn't consider it a female empowerment movie. And Pretty Woman makes me want to vomit.


Polter-Cow - Nov 05, 2004 11:07:55 am PST #5433 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

"From frothy romances to whale-riding adventures, these films show us who we are, where we've been, what we can take, and better yet, what we can dish out," the O editors write of the list culled by Karen Durbin.

That explains Aliens, but I'm not certain how it explains many of the others, really.


§ ita § - Nov 05, 2004 11:08:02 am PST #5434 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

A list with Pretty Woman, What's Love Got To Do With It, and Thelma And Louise, does make me wonder. Not that I don't like the latter two, just ... empowered? Do I really have to be fucked over that hard to get empowered? Very depressing.


Sean K - Nov 05, 2004 11:09:58 am PST #5435 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Do I really have to be fucked over that hard to get empowered? Very depressing.

Or, you know, be pretty hooker with a heart of gold.


Aims - Nov 05, 2004 11:10:22 am PST #5436 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Mebbe they're doing the whole "strength from suffering/struggling" theme?


Consuela - Nov 05, 2004 11:10:30 am PST #5437 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

My list would have included Aliens, Pitch Black, and Shirley Valentine, to name a few. Paradise Road. A Town Like Alice.

Movies where women act instead of get acted upon.

And much as I love Hepburn and Tracy, most of their movies don't support her agency; they tend to undercut it in favor of his.


Betsy HP - Nov 05, 2004 11:10:34 am PST #5438 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Also, I am SO pleased that the empowered woman is empowered to be a hooker. Camille, Breakfast at Tiffany's, Pretty Woman.

What about Klute? Gigi? Sadie Thompson?

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