Pretty Woman? Notorious? Argh.
I love Notorious, but I wouldn't consider it a female empowerment movie. And Pretty Woman makes me want to vomit.
Jayne: 'Cause I don't know these folks. Don't much care to. Mal: They're whores. Jayne: I'm in.
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Consuela - Nov 05, 2004 11:05:55 am PST #5432 of 10001
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Polter-Cow - Nov 05, 2004 11:07:55 am PST #5433 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
"From frothy romances to whale-riding adventures, these films show us who we are, where we've been, what we can take, and better yet, what we can dish out," the O editors write of the list culled by Karen Durbin.
That explains Aliens, but I'm not certain how it explains many of the others, really.
§ ita § - Nov 05, 2004 11:08:02 am PST #5434 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
A list with Pretty Woman, What's Love Got To Do With It, and Thelma And Louise, does make me wonder. Not that I don't like the latter two, just ... empowered? Do I really have to be fucked over that hard to get empowered? Very depressing.
Sean K - Nov 05, 2004 11:09:58 am PST #5435 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Do I really have to be fucked over that hard to get empowered? Very depressing.
Or, you know, be pretty hooker with a heart of gold.
Aims - Nov 05, 2004 11:10:22 am PST #5436 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Mebbe they're doing the whole "strength from suffering/struggling" theme?
Consuela - Nov 05, 2004 11:10:30 am PST #5437 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
My list would have included Aliens, Pitch Black, and Shirley Valentine, to name a few. Paradise Road. A Town Like Alice.
Movies where women act instead of get acted upon.
And much as I love Hepburn and Tracy, most of their movies don't support her agency; they tend to undercut it in favor of his.
Betsy HP - Nov 05, 2004 11:10:34 am PST #5438 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Also, I am SO pleased that the empowered woman is empowered to be a hooker. Camille, Breakfast at Tiffany's, Pretty Woman.
What about Klute? Gigi? Sadie Thompson?
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Sean K - Nov 05, 2004 11:46:28 am PST #5439 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Paradise Road.
LOOOOOVE this movie. Incredible cast, incredible story, and quite moving.
And yes, women with agency, in a situation where nobody comes by their own agency easily, regardless of gender.
And all true.
Vonnie K - Nov 05, 2004 11:57:16 am PST #5440 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
Wow. Whoever made that list is on some bad crack.
I mean, I love a lot of movies on the list, but empowering? I'd give it for Aliens, Girlfight, Born Yesterday and maybe All Above Eve. The rest of the choices kind of leave me agog, especially the incongruity of having "Black Narcissus" called 'a chick flick'. ::boggles::
Dana - Nov 05, 2004 12:16:12 pm PST #5441 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
I adore Breakfast at Tiffany's, but I wouldn't say its overwhelming message is female empowerment.