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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

A place to talk about movies--Old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


tommyrot - Oct 28, 2004 6:20:00 am PDT #5290 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Perhaps this guy actually wants to sleep with his own sister.

We should warn her.


Sean K - Oct 28, 2004 6:40:19 am PDT #5291 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Wow, I sat and read the whole thing, adn while the guy was really good at finding hundreds of little supporting details, he was also pretty good at overlooking details that invalidate his theory.


Sean K - Oct 28, 2004 6:46:43 am PDT #5292 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

And for the record, when I trash movie critics, it is specifically Roger Ebert that I'm thinking of (along with a few critics from Ann Arbor and Detroit papers). I will now be adding Jim Emerson to that list.

::note to self: in the future, when you feel like making a generalized slam against movie critics, remember to instead say what you actually mean -- "Roger Ebert and Jim Emerson bug the crap out of me"::


Steph L. - Oct 28, 2004 6:54:32 am PDT #5293 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I hated Gone With the Wind, until I saw it on a giant screen. The story still doesn't do much for me, but it's positively gorgeous.

I'm kind of embarassed by how much I love GWTW.


Polter-Cow - Oct 28, 2004 7:29:23 am PDT #5294 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Wow, I sat and read the whole thing, adn while the guy was really good at finding hundreds of little supporting details, he was also pretty good at overlooking details that invalidate his theory.

That sounds like every critique of my papers in British Romantic Poetry.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 28, 2004 8:48:42 am PDT #5295 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

"Eh, whatever. That guy doesn't know what he's talking about ."

Well, given how much Kelly had to explain his plot outside of the movie to make anyone understand what he was trying to communicate, I can't really argue that he makes a lot of sense in general. But I'd take him at his word that he didn't cast the Gyllenhaals because he wanted some forbidden incestuous undercurrent in the film.

Also, Note to self: When you've seen both Ju-on: The Grudge and its American remake inside of two weeks, do not then hang an umbrella from your kitchen door so that it looks like a head of black hair peeking out from behind the door at crawling height as you open it. I think I shot my pulse rate up past 200 last night walking in from the eclipse.


Lyra Jane - Oct 28, 2004 9:28:39 am PDT #5296 of 10001
Up with the sun

Well, given how much Kelly had to explain his plot outside of the movie to make anyone understand what he was trying to communicate, I can't really argue that he makes a lot of sense in general.

Yeah. I think he made (in the 2001 cut, anyhow) a very good movie that does not say what he wants it to say. (Can a movie be good, if it doesn't communicate the director's intentions? Dunno, but it seems like this one fits the bill.)


beathen - Oct 28, 2004 9:34:19 am PDT #5297 of 10001
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

Also, Note to self: When you've seen both Ju-on: The Grudge and its American remake inside of two weeks, do not then hang an umbrella from your kitchen door so that it looks like a head of black hair peeking out from behind the door at crawling height as you open it. I think I shot my pulse rate up past 200 last night walking in from the eclipse.

HAHAHA - That's funny! I would've jumped at the umbrella and then laughed my head off. ( Although I totally understand having my imagination run away with me like that and even more so if I'm alone. )


Sean K - Oct 28, 2004 10:20:59 am PDT #5298 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Well, given how much Kelly had to explain his plot outside of the movie to make anyone understand what he was trying to communicate, I can't really argue that he makes a lot of sense in general.

Having heard Kelly's commentary, I agree that the film doesn't necessarily explicitly say what he intended it to say, but to blow off the director's explanation in favor of a "repressed incest" explanation is just kind of wacky, IMO.


Hayden - Oct 28, 2004 10:56:16 am PDT #5299 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Can a movie be good, if it doesn't communicate the director's intentions?

I think so. In fact, the more I've heard about the director's intentions with Donny Darko, the more I'm glad I haven't seen his recut. It works better with a little mystery.