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beathen - Oct 28, 2004 9:34:19 am PDT #5297 of 10001
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

Also, Note to self: When you've seen both Ju-on: The Grudge and its American remake inside of two weeks, do not then hang an umbrella from your kitchen door so that it looks like a head of black hair peeking out from behind the door at crawling height as you open it. I think I shot my pulse rate up past 200 last night walking in from the eclipse.

HAHAHA - That's funny! I would've jumped at the umbrella and then laughed my head off. ( Although I totally understand having my imagination run away with me like that and even more so if I'm alone. )


Sean K - Oct 28, 2004 10:20:59 am PDT #5298 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Well, given how much Kelly had to explain his plot outside of the movie to make anyone understand what he was trying to communicate, I can't really argue that he makes a lot of sense in general.

Having heard Kelly's commentary, I agree that the film doesn't necessarily explicitly say what he intended it to say, but to blow off the director's explanation in favor of a "repressed incest" explanation is just kind of wacky, IMO.


Hayden - Oct 28, 2004 10:56:16 am PDT #5299 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Can a movie be good, if it doesn't communicate the director's intentions?

I think so. In fact, the more I've heard about the director's intentions with Donny Darko, the more I'm glad I haven't seen his recut. It works better with a little mystery.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 28, 2004 11:43:44 am PDT #5300 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It's actually kind of amazing that the director set out to make a time travel/superhero sci-fi movie and ended up with a stylish and affecting tale of a teenager's descent into schizophrenia in that original theatrical cut. Usually when a movie gets out of the director's control, you end up with a pile of crap rather than a quality movie that's completely at odds with his intent.


§ ita § - Oct 28, 2004 11:46:48 am PDT #5301 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Usually when a movie gets out of the director's control, you end up with a pile of crap rather than a quality movie that's completely at odds with his intent.

George Lucas almost pulled it off.


Hayden - Oct 28, 2004 12:04:41 pm PDT #5302 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Word to both of you.


JohnSweden - Oct 28, 2004 12:05:45 pm PDT #5303 of 10001
I can't even.

George Lucas almost pulled it off.

Which time?


sumi - Oct 28, 2004 12:06:48 pm PDT #5304 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

That's what I'm wondering.


§ ita § - Oct 28, 2004 12:08:25 pm PDT #5305 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The first time, when it apparently wasn't what he meant to say, but fired up millions anyway.


Hayden - Oct 28, 2004 12:27:24 pm PDT #5306 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I assumed you meant the first time.