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Buffista Movies 3: Panned and Scanned  

A place to talk about movies--Old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Beverly - Oct 27, 2004 9:53:47 pm PDT #5284 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Ow! You said your dog didn't bite!

"Thet's nut mai dug."


Gris - Oct 28, 2004 12:07:41 am PDT #5285 of 10001
Hey. New board.

I think the Donnie Darko essay-writing guy got Donnie confused with, say, every het male or lesbian audience member. Cuz Maggie Gyllenhaal is HAWT.


Lyra Jane - Oct 28, 2004 5:06:23 am PDT #5286 of 10001
Up with the sun

Did he assume that bickering siblings wouldn't use the word "fuck" in an argument unless they secretly wanted to? Calling Dr. Freud...

I think that was a big part of it. Also he thought Donnie's obsession with Frank was a result of his obsession with Elizabeth and her sex life. Oh, and he read it into the part where Donnie says he thinks Christina Applegate is hot, because her character was a big sister.

It was a very strange thesis.


Alicia K - Oct 28, 2004 6:07:50 am PDT #5287 of 10001
Uncertainty could be our guiding light.

A page or so late, but speaking of Ed Wood and his long-lost film, I watched Ed Wood last week and laughed really hard when they were reading the review of his play, and Sarah Jessica Parker asked, "Do I really look like a horse?"

Yes. Yes, sweetheart, you do.


Sean K - Oct 28, 2004 6:14:50 am PDT #5288 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

It was a very strange thesis.

Okay, I'm reading this thing, and it's really bugging the crap out of me. He dismisses the director's explanations fo the events of the movie out of hand. Like, "Eh, whatever. That guy doesn't know what he's talking about ."

WTF?????

Plus he includes Citizen Kane in a list of movies (like Fight Club and Jacob's Ladder) that exist entirely in the main character's head.

Ummm..... I thought the whole point of Citizen Kane is that the one place we never get a look at is inside Kane's head.


Sean K - Oct 28, 2004 6:18:00 am PDT #5289 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Another line from the idiotic essay:

(Aside: on the original DVD commentary, director Richard Kelly remarks how special it was to have Jake's real-life sister in the role. Why? He doesn't say.

Um, possibly because real life brother and sister play more convincing brother and sister, who have an actual family resemblance?

But it does add a little extra-forbidden sexual tension to the film.)

Except for the part where it doesn't, because they're actually brother and sister, and give off no sexual tension or chemistry at all?

Perhaps this guy actually wants to sleep with his own sister.


tommyrot - Oct 28, 2004 6:20:00 am PDT #5290 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Perhaps this guy actually wants to sleep with his own sister.

We should warn her.


Sean K - Oct 28, 2004 6:40:19 am PDT #5291 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Wow, I sat and read the whole thing, adn while the guy was really good at finding hundreds of little supporting details, he was also pretty good at overlooking details that invalidate his theory.


Sean K - Oct 28, 2004 6:46:43 am PDT #5292 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

And for the record, when I trash movie critics, it is specifically Roger Ebert that I'm thinking of (along with a few critics from Ann Arbor and Detroit papers). I will now be adding Jim Emerson to that list.

::note to self: in the future, when you feel like making a generalized slam against movie critics, remember to instead say what you actually mean -- "Roger Ebert and Jim Emerson bug the crap out of me"::


Steph L. - Oct 28, 2004 6:54:32 am PDT #5293 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I hated Gone With the Wind, until I saw it on a giant screen. The story still doesn't do much for me, but it's positively gorgeous.

I'm kind of embarassed by how much I love GWTW.